[A NEW ERA BEGINS] STAR WARS EPISODE IX: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Bloodstained]

Os supostos vazamentos estão ficando cada vez piores e os rumores e teorias cada vez mais dementes... Levando em conta o naipe do povo que gerencia Star Wars atualmente, é bem provável que haja um fundo de verdade por detrás deles.


'Star Wars 9' Leaks May Reveal Rey's Shocking Ending in 'Rise of Skywalker'

Trying to dodge Star Wars leaks in the lead-up to The Rise of Skywalker’s release is about as difficult as successfully navigating an asteroid field, and this latest Episode IX leak may be the most explosive yet. Even if you’ve managed to stay spoiler free so far, this new rumor about Rey’s arc and the movie’s ending is almost too juicy to ignore. For everyone else, it’s just another piece of the rapidly assembling puzzle that is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

Spoiler: Warning: Huge spoilers for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

The latest Episode IX leaks come from Making Star Wars, a trusted source for spoilers among the Star Wars community. In a series of YouTube videos, MSW editor Jason Ward has been breaking down all the latest rumors, and his newest video focuses on Rey’s journey throughout Rise of Skywalker, including two major moments and what could be the final scene of the Skywalker Saga.

The first pivotal Rey moment comes during a scene where our heroes face off against a giant sandworm in what sounds like a callback to the original trilogy. Here’s how Ward describes the scene, based on information from his sources:

“Rey and crew do get attacked by a sandworm alien, which reveals an inexplicable new power. She possesses the power to heal. They almost kill the work and then she uses her powers to repair, or heal, or even bring it back to life.”

Jedi healing powers? That’s pretty interesting. Now, here’s the second key moment, where Rey unlocks another, even more surprising Force ability:

“They’re in a battle and a ship starts flying away and Rey goes to grab the ship and Kylo sees what she’s doing and he does it too. So it’s kind of like in Force Awakens when they’re fighting over the saber, but in this battle, the revelation is that Rey is able to shot Force lightning out of her hands. And it looks like things don’t work out too well for the ship.”

So if these leaks are true, that means Rey will learn new abilities that lean both towards the Light and Dark sides of the Force. It’s almost as if she’s moved beyond the old binary of Jedi vs. Sith to some new, more balanced existence. Like, say … a Skywalker?

This brings us to the final scene of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — at least according to Jason Ward. Apparently, the movie will return to where it all began, Tatooine. Our heroes visit the old Lars homestead where Luke grew up and look out over the planet’s twin suns. Then, this happens:

“I heard that a moment is filmed where Rey is walking around the perimeter of the Lars homestead and a commoner sees and her and says they haven’t seen anyone out there in years and asks who she is, and then she says that she’s Rey Skywalker.”

There are two ways to read this. Either Rey is actually a literal Skywalker and a relative of Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Kylo Ren; or, the term “Skywalker” will take on a new meaning by the end of Episode IX. That second option is the one we’ve been predicting ever since the movie’s title was revealed, and based on everything in this latest Star Wars leak, it makes a lot of sense.

If Rey masters both the Light and Dark sides of the Force, terms like Jedi or a Sith won’t apply. In that case, the best option would be to invent a new term for Rey and the next generation of Force users, and “Skywalker” just feels right.

Fonte
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Star Wars 9: 'Palpatine MADE Luke Skywalker attack Kylo Ren' – Horrifying revelation
STAR WARS 9: The Rise of Skywalker could explain one of the biggest controversies about The Last Jedi with the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine

Star Wars 8 divided audiences. One of the criticisms levelled at Rian Johnson's vision by hardcore fans was a frustration that major and legacy characters suddenly behaved in ways that did not make sense. Most fans with any knowledge of the previous trilogies struggled with the idea that Luke would try and kill his own nephew. In his sleep, no less. This was mot the Luke that fans knew and loved. Unless, it really wasn't... New leaks link back to scenes from Star Wars: Battlefront II, which includes a major sequence where Luke tracks down and breaks into one of Emperor Palpatine’s secret vaults on the planet Pilio.

It contains a treasure trove of Force artefacts, one of which eagle-eyed fans already spotted in Luke's possession on Ahch-To in The Last Jedi.

What exactly does that compass do? There are theories it helped Luke eventually find the First Jedi Temple on Ahch-To. But what if Palpatine already had a deeper plan in place related to the compass and other items like it?

The possibilities are absolutely horrifying and also explain how the apparently dead Emperor has been able to keep influencing events across the galaxy all these years.

Even worse, it seems Luke might also have been under Palpatine's influence, which lead to the catastrophic events that destroyed his Jedi school and set Kylo Ren firmly into the arms of Snoke – and thus, presumably Palpatine.

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine theory
​

Redditor NumeralJoker (via Inverse) just posted the superb explanation, linking back to that compass. It ties in with our existing knowledge that some Sith Masters had discovered the ability to transfer parts of themselves into inanimate objects.

Star Wars fans have already seen evidence of this in the most recent Darth Vader comics where Palpatine gave his apprentice the mask of the Sith Lord Momin, which was able to influence those around it and even take possession of them if they could be tempted to put it on.

The new theory says: "The Emperor deliberately planted the compass as bait to lure Luke in, infiltrate the Jedi temple's presence, and orchestrate Kylo Ren's fall. He influenced the device, and those near it.

"This was also what tempted Luke to kill Kylo, for only a brief moment, 'left with shame, and with consequence'".

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine compass theory
​

Did Palpatine really have such a precise ability to predict the future and plan for it?

Probably not. But the Aftermath novel confirmed the Emperor had laid numerous back up plans in case he was defeated. The entire First Order and the upcoming revelations about the red Sith Stormtroopers are all expected to be revealed as part of his machinations.

It is reasonable to suppose he seeded key places in the galaxy with items containing fragments of his soul which could then start corrupting and turning events to his advantage when they were discovered.

Fans were already expecting to see Kylo Ren somehow affected by Palpatine and possibly Rey. But Luke Skywalker too?

Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker is out on December 19


Fonte

 

[chubilubi]

Faz "sentido" mas que é um puuuuuta remendo com superbonder, ahhhhh isso é....e não ficaria bom....veremos.

 

[Goris]

Os supostos vazamentos estão ficando cada vez piores e os rumores e teorias cada vez mais dementes... Levando em conta o naipe do povo que gerencia Star Wars atualmente, é bem provável que haja um fundo de verdade por detrás deles.


'Star Wars 9' Leaks May Reveal Rey's Shocking Ending in 'Rise of Skywalker'

Trying to dodge Star Wars leaks in the lead-up to The Rise of Skywalker’s release is about as difficult as successfully navigating an asteroid field, and this latest Episode IX leak may be the most explosive yet. Even if you’ve managed to stay spoiler free so far, this new rumor about Rey’s arc and the movie’s ending is almost too juicy to ignore. For everyone else, it’s just another piece of the rapidly assembling puzzle that is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

Spoiler: Warning: Huge spoilers for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

The latest Episode IX leaks come from Making Star Wars, a trusted source for spoilers among the Star Wars community. In a series of YouTube videos, MSW editor Jason Ward has been breaking down all the latest rumors, and his newest video focuses on Rey’s journey throughout Rise of Skywalker, including two major moments and what could be the final scene of the Skywalker Saga.

The first pivotal Rey moment comes during a scene where our heroes face off against a giant sandworm in what sounds like a callback to the original trilogy. Here’s how Ward describes the scene, based on information from his sources:




Jedi healing powers? That’s pretty interesting. Now, here’s the second key moment, where Rey unlocks another, even more surprising Force ability:




So if these leaks are true, that means Rey will learn new abilities that lean both towards the Light and Dark sides of the Force. It’s almost as if she’s moved beyond the old binary of Jedi vs. Sith to some new, more balanced existence. Like, say … a Skywalker?

This brings us to the final scene of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — at least according to Jason Ward. Apparently, the movie will return to where it all began, Tatooine. Our heroes visit the old Lars homestead where Luke grew up and look out over the planet’s twin suns. Then, this happens:




There are two ways to read this. Either Rey is actually a literal Skywalker and a relative of Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Kylo Ren; or, the term “Skywalker” will take on a new meaning by the end of Episode IX. That second option is the one we’ve been predicting ever since the movie’s title was revealed, and based on everything in this latest Star Wars leak, it makes a lot of sense.

If Rey masters both the Light and Dark sides of the Force, terms like Jedi or a Sith won’t apply. In that case, the best option would be to invent a new term for Rey and the next generation of Force users, and “Skywalker” just feels right.

Fonte
================================================================================================
Star Wars 9: 'Palpatine MADE Luke Skywalker attack Kylo Ren' – Horrifying revelation
STAR WARS 9: The Rise of Skywalker could explain one of the biggest controversies about The Last Jedi with the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine

Star Wars 8 divided audiences. One of the criticisms levelled at Rian Johnson's vision by hardcore fans was a frustration that major and legacy characters suddenly behaved in ways that did not make sense. Most fans with any knowledge of the previous trilogies struggled with the idea that Luke would try and kill his own nephew. In his sleep, no less. This was mot the Luke that fans knew and loved. Unless, it really wasn't... New leaks link back to scenes from Star Wars: Battlefront II, which includes a major sequence where Luke tracks down and breaks into one of Emperor Palpatine’s secret vaults on the planet Pilio.

It contains a treasure trove of Force artefacts, one of which eagle-eyed fans already spotted in Luke's possession on Ahch-To in The Last Jedi.

What exactly does that compass do? There are theories it helped Luke eventually find the First Jedi Temple on Ahch-To. But what if Palpatine already had a deeper plan in place related to the compass and other items like it?

The possibilities are absolutely horrifying and also explain how the apparently dead Emperor has been able to keep influencing events across the galaxy all these years.

Even worse, it seems Luke might also have been under Palpatine's influence, which lead to the catastrophic events that destroyed his Jedi school and set Kylo Ren firmly into the arms of Snoke – and thus, presumably Palpatine.

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine theory
​

Redditor NumeralJoker (via Inverse) just posted the superb explanation, linking back to that compass. It ties in with our existing knowledge that some Sith Masters had discovered the ability to transfer parts of themselves into inanimate objects.

Star Wars fans have already seen evidence of this in the most recent Darth Vader comics where Palpatine gave his apprentice the mask of the Sith Lord Momin, which was able to influence those around it and even take possession of them if they could be tempted to put it on.

The new theory says: "The Emperor deliberately planted the compass as bait to lure Luke in, infiltrate the Jedi temple's presence, and orchestrate Kylo Ren's fall. He influenced the device, and those near it.

"This was also what tempted Luke to kill Kylo, for only a brief moment, 'left with shame, and with consequence'".

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine compass theory
​

Did Palpatine really have such a precise ability to predict the future and plan for it?

Probably not. But the Aftermath novel confirmed the Emperor had laid numerous back up plans in case he was defeated. The entire First Order and the upcoming revelations about the red Sith Stormtroopers are all expected to be revealed as part of his machinations.

It is reasonable to suppose he seeded key places in the galaxy with items containing fragments of his soul which could then start corrupting and turning events to his advantage when they were discovered.

Fans were already expecting to see Kylo Ren somehow affected by Palpatine and possibly Rey. But Luke Skywalker too?

Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker is out on December 19


Fonte

Olha... Nunca imaginei isso, mas vendo como ficou o lance, tô quase pedindo perdão pro Ryan Johnson e entendendo que é melhor ignorar tudo de um filme e começar outro. Simplesmente não dá pra agir sem ignorar o que RJ fez, assim como não dá pra prosseguir ignorando o cara. A m**** tá tão grande (desculpem a palavra) que não dá pra limpar sem sujar (e muito) as mãos.

 

[Bat Esponja]

Os supostos vazamentos estão ficando cada vez piores e os rumores e teorias cada vez mais dementes... Levando em conta o naipe do povo que gerencia Star Wars atualmente, é bem provável que haja um fundo de verdade por detrás deles.


'Star Wars 9' Leaks May Reveal Rey's Shocking Ending in 'Rise of Skywalker'

Trying to dodge Star Wars leaks in the lead-up to The Rise of Skywalker’s release is about as difficult as successfully navigating an asteroid field, and this latest Episode IX leak may be the most explosive yet. Even if you’ve managed to stay spoiler free so far, this new rumor about Rey’s arc and the movie’s ending is almost too juicy to ignore. For everyone else, it’s just another piece of the rapidly assembling puzzle that is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

Spoiler: Warning: Huge spoilers for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

The latest Episode IX leaks come from Making Star Wars, a trusted source for spoilers among the Star Wars community. In a series of YouTube videos, MSW editor Jason Ward has been breaking down all the latest rumors, and his newest video focuses on Rey’s journey throughout Rise of Skywalker, including two major moments and what could be the final scene of the Skywalker Saga.

The first pivotal Rey moment comes during a scene where our heroes face off against a giant sandworm in what sounds like a callback to the original trilogy. Here’s how Ward describes the scene, based on information from his sources:




Jedi healing powers? That’s pretty interesting. Now, here’s the second key moment, where Rey unlocks another, even more surprising Force ability:




So if these leaks are true, that means Rey will learn new abilities that lean both towards the Light and Dark sides of the Force. It’s almost as if she’s moved beyond the old binary of Jedi vs. Sith to some new, more balanced existence. Like, say … a Skywalker?

This brings us to the final scene of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — at least according to Jason Ward. Apparently, the movie will return to where it all began, Tatooine. Our heroes visit the old Lars homestead where Luke grew up and look out over the planet’s twin suns. Then, this happens:




There are two ways to read this. Either Rey is actually a literal Skywalker and a relative of Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Kylo Ren; or, the term “Skywalker” will take on a new meaning by the end of Episode IX. That second option is the one we’ve been predicting ever since the movie’s title was revealed, and based on everything in this latest Star Wars leak, it makes a lot of sense.

If Rey masters both the Light and Dark sides of the Force, terms like Jedi or a Sith won’t apply. In that case, the best option would be to invent a new term for Rey and the next generation of Force users, and “Skywalker” just feels right.

Fonte
================================================================================================
Star Wars 9: 'Palpatine MADE Luke Skywalker attack Kylo Ren' – Horrifying revelation
STAR WARS 9: The Rise of Skywalker could explain one of the biggest controversies about The Last Jedi with the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine

Star Wars 8 divided audiences. One of the criticisms levelled at Rian Johnson's vision by hardcore fans was a frustration that major and legacy characters suddenly behaved in ways that did not make sense. Most fans with any knowledge of the previous trilogies struggled with the idea that Luke would try and kill his own nephew. In his sleep, no less. This was mot the Luke that fans knew and loved. Unless, it really wasn't... New leaks link back to scenes from Star Wars: Battlefront II, which includes a major sequence where Luke tracks down and breaks into one of Emperor Palpatine’s secret vaults on the planet Pilio.

It contains a treasure trove of Force artefacts, one of which eagle-eyed fans already spotted in Luke's possession on Ahch-To in The Last Jedi.

What exactly does that compass do? There are theories it helped Luke eventually find the First Jedi Temple on Ahch-To. But what if Palpatine already had a deeper plan in place related to the compass and other items like it?

The possibilities are absolutely horrifying and also explain how the apparently dead Emperor has been able to keep influencing events across the galaxy all these years.

Even worse, it seems Luke might also have been under Palpatine's influence, which lead to the catastrophic events that destroyed his Jedi school and set Kylo Ren firmly into the arms of Snoke – and thus, presumably Palpatine.

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine theory
​

Redditor NumeralJoker (via Inverse) just posted the superb explanation, linking back to that compass. It ties in with our existing knowledge that some Sith Masters had discovered the ability to transfer parts of themselves into inanimate objects.

Star Wars fans have already seen evidence of this in the most recent Darth Vader comics where Palpatine gave his apprentice the mask of the Sith Lord Momin, which was able to influence those around it and even take possession of them if they could be tempted to put it on.

The new theory says: "The Emperor deliberately planted the compass as bait to lure Luke in, infiltrate the Jedi temple's presence, and orchestrate Kylo Ren's fall. He influenced the device, and those near it.

"This was also what tempted Luke to kill Kylo, for only a brief moment, 'left with shame, and with consequence'".

Star Wars 9: Luke and Palpatine compass theory
​

Did Palpatine really have such a precise ability to predict the future and plan for it?

Probably not. But the Aftermath novel confirmed the Emperor had laid numerous back up plans in case he was defeated. The entire First Order and the upcoming revelations about the red Sith Stormtroopers are all expected to be revealed as part of his machinations.

It is reasonable to suppose he seeded key places in the galaxy with items containing fragments of his soul which could then start corrupting and turning events to his advantage when they were discovered.

Fans were already expecting to see Kylo Ren somehow affected by Palpatine and possibly Rey. But Luke Skywalker too?

Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker is out on December 19


Fonte

Não bastava manchar o nome do Luke agora vão manchar até o sobrenome

 

[Bat Esponja]

Olha... Nunca imaginei isso, mas vendo como ficou o lance, tô quase pedindo perdão pro Ryan Johnson e entendendo que é melhor ignorar tudo de um filme e começar outro. Simplesmente não dá pra agir sem ignorar o que RJ fez, assim como não dá pra prosseguir ignorando o cara. A m**** tá tão grande (desculpem a palavra) que não dá pra limpar sem sujar (e muito) as mãos.

Né

O problema não era uma minoria vocal que não faz nada na vida fora ficar postando teoria na internet?

Disney deveria ter colhões e fazer o filme ser só sobre esses novos personagens.
Não faz isso porque viu o que aconteceu com Solo.

 

[Bat Esponja]

Mas bem que podiam retconear a cena do Luke queimando livros dizendo que ele tava possuído pelo Palpatine hue

 

[EgonRunner]

Luke possuído daria uma ótima história para um filme do meio da trilogia.
mas remendar isso no último filme do arco em 5 minutos, vai ser apenas uma boa idéia desperdiçada.

 

[Goris]

Luke possuído daria uma ótima história para um filme do meio da trilogia.
mas remendar isso no último filme do arco em 5 minutos, vai ser apenas uma boa idéia desperdiçada.

Esse é o problema, o VIII fez tanta coisa errada e a Disney ainda fez tanta coisa errada que praticamente qualquer coisa que fizerem para remendar a história pode ser uma profusão de boas idéias desperdiçadas.

Bom, não é segredo que odiei o Ep VIII, mas fico pensando nas possibilidades.

Ignoram quase totalmente o VIII. De repente fica um filme legal, ou até mesmo ótimo. Mas como trilogia vai ficar uma coisa totalmente desagregada, você vai sentir que a trilogia não encaixa. Aparentemente é o caminho que a Disney escolheu.

Mostram que o VIII aconteceu, retconeiam (reescrevem) um ou outro ponto pra ficar OK e ignoram o que não dá pra salvar. De repente contam uma história legal. Acho que é a linha que a Disney vai seguir mas posso estar enganado. O problema é que, dependendo do que a Disney escoher ignorar e escolher manter, pode dar problema com os fãs. Porque assim como quem não gostou do TLJ vai chiar (por algo ser mantido) quem gostou vai chiar por tirarem algo. Na teoria seria a melhor opção, mas apenas se bem feito. E a Disney não tem demonstrado saber fazer bem feito...

Vão full ahead, mantém tudo de TLJ, enfiam algumas partes da trilogia original só pra fazer uns mimos nos fãs antigos... Enquanto trilogia é a opção que deixa ela mais coerente e seria a opção mais corajosa da Disney - deixe o passado morrer, mate-o se preciso for - e tbm mostraria sem a menor sombra de dúvida que o caminho Disney foi o correto. Acho que tudo indica que não vai ser esse o caminho escolhido.

Vocês pensam em outras possibilidades?

 

[Munn Rá]

Star Wars virou Star Bosts : Os 3 " originais " eram bem legais e as posteriores continuaçoes OK

Mas depois que a Disney comprou .................................................... " vixe " .....................................................

 

[Bloodstained]

Palpatine Will Have An Entire Fleet Of Death Stars In Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

“Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have peace.”

Those words, uttered by Emperor Palpatine himself, will no doubt have grave implications for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, the ninth and final installment in Lucasfilm’s core saga which signals the long-rumored second coming of Ian McDiarmid’s wicked mastermind.

First teased during Episode IX‘s debut trailer, which ended with that instantly recognizable cackle echoing in the darkness, we know all too well that Palpatine has a big, big role to play – particularly now that Supreme Leader Snoke is no longer a threat, after he was brushed aside during The Last Jedi.

Exactly what Palpatine has planned for Rey and Co. remains to be seen – chances are that Force vision has something to do with him coaxing Daisy Ridley’s heroine to the Dark Side – though according to the latest rumors, Episode IX will empower Emperor Palpatine with an entire fleet of Death Stars. And they’ll be controlled by the blood-red Sith Troopers.

Of course, the exact specifics of Palpatine’s master plan are still being kept locked away in the Lucasfilm vaults and one could argue that the introduction of another Death Star would be… somewhat boring? The Original Trilogy already contained two, while The Force Awakens rendered a Death Star-esque superweapon of its own in Starkiller Base. That being said, though, this intel comes to us from the same sources who revealed that Ewan McGregor was returning as Obi-Wan, and that Rey will have a special connection to the Emperor, which Making Star Wars has since confirmed, so we have no reason to doubt it.

In any case, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker shoots for theaters on December 20th – just over three months from now, meaning the countdown is well and truly on. It’ll also arrive on the heels of The Mandalorian, another hotly-anticipated Star Wars project that’s due to launch alongside Disney+, the upcoming streaming service jam-packed with big-name titles.


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Voto com o relator.

 

[Uzumaki.Luffy]

Palpatine Will Have An Entire Fleet Of Death Stars In Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

“Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have peace.”

Those words, uttered by Emperor Palpatine himself, will no doubt have grave implications for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, the ninth and final installment in Lucasfilm’s core saga which signals the long-rumored second coming of Ian McDiarmid’s wicked mastermind.

First teased during Episode IX‘s debut trailer, which ended with that instantly recognizable cackle echoing in the darkness, we know all too well that Palpatine has a big, big role to play – particularly now that Supreme Leader Snoke is no longer a threat, after he was brushed aside during The Last Jedi.

Exactly what Palpatine has planned for Rey and Co. remains to be seen – chances are that Force vision has something to do with him coaxing Daisy Ridley’s heroine to the Dark Side – though according to the latest rumors, Episode IX will empower Emperor Palpatine with an entire fleet of Death Stars. And they’ll be controlled by the blood-red Sith Troopers.

Of course, the exact specifics of Palpatine’s master plan are still being kept locked away in the Lucasfilm vaults and one could argue that the introduction of another Death Star would be… somewhat boring? The Original Trilogy already contained two, while The Force Awakens rendered a Death Star-esque superweapon of its own in Starkiller Base. That being said, though, this intel comes to us from the same sources who revealed that Ewan McGregor was returning as Obi-Wan, and that Rey will have a special connection to the Emperor, which Making Star Wars has since confirmed, so we have no reason to doubt it.

In any case, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker shoots for theaters on December 20th – just over three months from now, meaning the countdown is well and truly on. It’ll also arrive on the heels of The Mandalorian, another hotly-anticipated Star Wars project that’s due to launch alongside Disney+, the upcoming streaming service jam-packed with big-name titles.


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Voto com o relator.

Deveriam contratar as pessoas que trabalharam no antigo universo expandido.Eu tenho certeza que eles conseguiriam fazer algo melhor que esse lixo que está sendo feito pelo J.J. Abrahams e pela K.K.

 

[Rel666]

Engraçado estava lembrando de como estava empolgado para ver o despertar da força chamei amigos e amigas para ir no cinema fiz um resumão das trilogias para as pessoas que não conheciam e fiquei muito feliz com o filme e com as pessoas que estavam lá no cinema fãs novos e antigos muitos levando seus sabre de luz no cinto para demonstrar a devoção a franquia, no segundo filme algo aconteceu eu queria ver o filme mas eu estava diferente não havia a mesma empolgação mesmo com o resultado positivo do primeiro, eu olhava os trailers mas não estavam me captando como os do anterior mesmo assim queria ver o que aconteceria nos últimos jedi, e ao assistir sei lá era como se sentisse milhões de almas gritando em desespero e num instante elas sumissem sem deixar vestígio.

 

[Darth_Tyranus]

Palpatine Will Have An Entire Fleet Of Death Stars In Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

“Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have peace.”

Those words, uttered by Emperor Palpatine himself, will no doubt have grave implications for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, the ninth and final installment in Lucasfilm’s core saga which signals the long-rumored second coming of Ian McDiarmid’s wicked mastermind.

First teased during Episode IX‘s debut trailer, which ended with that instantly recognizable cackle echoing in the darkness, we know all too well that Palpatine has a big, big role to play – particularly now that Supreme Leader Snoke is no longer a threat, after he was brushed aside during The Last Jedi.

Exactly what Palpatine has planned for Rey and Co. remains to be seen – chances are that Force vision has something to do with him coaxing Daisy Ridley’s heroine to the Dark Side – though according to the latest rumors, Episode IX will empower Emperor Palpatine with an entire fleet of Death Stars. And they’ll be controlled by the blood-red Sith Troopers.

Of course, the exact specifics of Palpatine’s master plan are still being kept locked away in the Lucasfilm vaults and one could argue that the introduction of another Death Star would be… somewhat boring? The Original Trilogy already contained two, while The Force Awakens rendered a Death Star-esque superweapon of its own in Starkiller Base. That being said, though, this intel comes to us from the same sources who revealed that Ewan McGregor was returning as Obi-Wan, and that Rey will have a special connection to the Emperor, which Making Star Wars has since confirmed, so we have no reason to doubt it.

In any case, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker shoots for theaters on December 20th – just over three months from now, meaning the countdown is well and truly on. It’ll also arrive on the heels of The Mandalorian, another hotly-anticipated Star Wars project that’s due to launch alongside Disney+, the upcoming streaming service jam-packed with big-name titles.


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Voto com o relator.

Isso se refere a frota de destroyers, estes terão tecnologia da Death Star. Repare no canhão embaixo.



É uma ideia terrível, imbecil e preguiçosa. O pior de tudo: confirma os vazamentos.

 

[Bloodstained]

É uma ideia terrível, imbecil e preguiçosa.

Essa sentença define praticamente tudo o que a Lucasfilm introduziu na trilogia sequelada.

 

[chubilubi]

Eh de fato impressionante pelo lado ruim da coisa. Não o possível bom kkkkk.
Nem sei o que comentar mais.

 

[RedKnight]

Isso se refere a frota de destroyers, estes terão tecnologia da Death Star. Repare no canhão embaixo.



É uma ideia terrível, imbecil e preguiçosa. O pior de tudo: confirma os vazamentos.

"Death Star Destroyers"
A reação que eles esperam provocar:
Minha reação: :/

 

[EgonRunner]

vou registrar os nomes abaixo e variantes, vou ficar rico ...
Death Sun
Death Battleship
Death Star Pro
Death Goat Destroyer

 

[Demétrio]

Os supostos vazamentos estão ficando cada vez piores e os rumores e teorias cada vez mais dementes... Levando em conta o naipe do povo que gerencia Star Wars atualmente, é bem provável que haja um fundo de verdade por detrás deles.


'Star Wars 9' Leaks May Reveal Rey's Shocking Ending in 'Rise of Skywalker'

Trying to dodge Star Wars leaks in the lead-up to The Rise of Skywalker’s release is about as difficult as successfully navigating an asteroid field, and this latest Episode IX leak may be the most explosive yet. Even if you’ve managed to stay spoiler free so far, this new rumor about Rey’s arc and the movie’s ending is almost too juicy to ignore. For everyone else, it’s just another piece of the rapidly assembling puzzle that is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

Spoiler: Warning: Huge spoilers for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

The latest Episode IX leaks come from Making Star Wars, a trusted source for spoilers among the Star Wars community. In a series of YouTube videos, MSW editor Jason Ward has been breaking down all the latest rumors, and his newest video focuses on Rey’s journey throughout Rise of Skywalker, including two major moments and what could be the final scene of the Skywalker Saga.

The first pivotal Rey moment comes during a scene where our heroes face off against a giant sandworm in what sounds like a callback to the original trilogy. Here’s how Ward describes the scene, based on information from his sources:




Jedi healing powers? That’s pretty interesting. Now, here’s the second key moment, where Rey unlocks another, even more surprising Force ability:




So if these leaks are true, that means Rey will learn new abilities that lean both towards the Light and Dark sides of the Force. It’s almost as if she’s moved beyond the old binary of Jedi vs. Sith to some new, more balanced existence. Like, say … a Skywalker?

This brings us to the final scene of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — at least according to Jason Ward. Apparently, the movie will return to where it all began, Tatooine. Our heroes visit the old Lars homestead where Luke grew up and look out over the planet’s twin suns. Then, this happens:




There are two ways to read this. Either Rey is actually a literal Skywalker and a relative of Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Kylo Ren; or, the term “Skywalker” will take on a new meaning by the end of Episode IX. That second option is the one we’ve been predicting ever since the movie’s title was revealed, and based on everything in this latest Star Wars leak, it makes a lot of sense.

If Rey masters both the Light and Dark sides of the Force, terms like Jedi or a Sith won’t apply. In that case, the best option would be to invent a new term for Rey and the next generation of Force users, and “Skywalker” just feels right.

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Star Wars 9: 'Palpatine MADE Luke Skywalker attack Kylo Ren' – Horrifying revelation
STAR WARS 9: The Rise of Skywalker could explain one of the biggest controversies about The Last Jedi with the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine

Star Wars 8 divided audiences. One of the criticisms levelled at Rian Johnson's vision by hardcore fans was a frustration that major and legacy characters suddenly behaved in ways that did not make sense. Most fans with any knowledge of the previous trilogies struggled with the idea that Luke would try and kill his own nephew. In his sleep, no less. This was mot the Luke that fans knew and loved. Unless, it really wasn't... New leaks link back to scenes from Star Wars: Battlefront II, which includes a major sequence where Luke tracks down and breaks into one of Emperor Palpatine’s secret vaults on the planet Pilio.

It contains a treasure trove of Force artefacts, one of which eagle-eyed fans already spotted in Luke's possession on Ahch-To in The Last Jedi.

What exactly does that compass do? There are theories it helped Luke eventually find the First Jedi Temple on Ahch-To. But what if Palpatine already had a deeper plan in place related to the compass and other items like it?

The possibilities are absolutely horrifying and also explain how the apparently dead Emperor has been able to keep influencing events across the galaxy all these years.

Even worse, it seems Luke might also have been under Palpatine's influence, which lead to the catastrophic events that destroyed his Jedi school and set Kylo Ren firmly into the arms of Snoke – and thus, presumably Palpatine.

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Redditor NumeralJoker (via Inverse) just posted the superb explanation, linking back to that compass. It ties in with our existing knowledge that some Sith Masters had discovered the ability to transfer parts of themselves into inanimate objects.

Star Wars fans have already seen evidence of this in the most recent Darth Vader comics where Palpatine gave his apprentice the mask of the Sith Lord Momin, which was able to influence those around it and even take possession of them if they could be tempted to put it on.

The new theory says: "The Emperor deliberately planted the compass as bait to lure Luke in, infiltrate the Jedi temple's presence, and orchestrate Kylo Ren's fall. He influenced the device, and those near it.

"This was also what tempted Luke to kill Kylo, for only a brief moment, 'left with shame, and with consequence'".

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Did Palpatine really have such a precise ability to predict the future and plan for it?

Probably not. But the Aftermath novel confirmed the Emperor had laid numerous back up plans in case he was defeated. The entire First Order and the upcoming revelations about the red Sith Stormtroopers are all expected to be revealed as part of his machinations.

It is reasonable to suppose he seeded key places in the galaxy with items containing fragments of his soul which could then start corrupting and turning events to his advantage when they were discovered.

Fans were already expecting to see Kylo Ren somehow affected by Palpatine and possibly Rey. But Luke Skywalker too?

Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker is out on December 19


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Senhor

Aparentemente as soluções da nova trilogia são "tirar poderes do orífico anal sem o menor motivo, contexto ou lógica e usar em alguma cena para causar impacto"

 

[Darth_Tyranus]

Senhor

Aparentemente as soluções da nova trilogia são "tirar poderes do orífico anal sem o menor motivo, contexto ou lógica e usar em alguma cena para causar impacto"

Se o senhor inverter o fluxo do orifício anal terá muita alegria, diversão e lágrimas. Se invertemos a nova trilogia, tudo permanece ruim.

 

[Bat Esponja]

Isso se refere a frota de destroyers, estes terão tecnologia da Death Star. Repare no canhão embaixo.



É uma ideia terrível, imbecil e preguiçosa. O pior de tudo: confirma os vazamentos.

Esse é o pior dos leaks, se confirmar... Lol

 

[GorinOSho]

Episódio VIII causou muitos danos no meu "amor" por Star Wars.

Mas aí vem um simples trailer que não diz nada, provavelmente engana em um monte de coisa e lá estou eu, de novo, no hype train.

Sério, como sou otário, não aprendo mesmo.

todos sofremos da sindrome de mulher de vagabundo com star wars.. apanha apanha mas ele chama e a gente vai correndo feliz achando que vai ser legal!

 

[Goris]

"Death Star Destroyers"
A reação que eles esperam provocar:
Minha reação: :/

Cara, que falta um roteirista bom não fez na trilogia.

É uma idéia ruim/reciclada/sem imaginação atrás da outra.

Pra variar, fico pensando, o que custava a Rey ser filha do Luke já pra começo de conversa, havendo primos e primas filhos dos Solo e toda a trama ir com isso em diante? Porra, Harrisson Ford queria que o personagem morresse? Tinha mil formas mais épicas do personagem morrer durante um combate (já pensou, ele fazer Luke ir pro lado negro nem que fosse por um segundo, e mostrar todo o seu poder?

Aí sim, ele diria algo como "Não posso me envolver mais, senão vou pro lado negro, vou sair da trama" e pronto, Rey livre, outros personagens livres... Solo morto, Luke afastado... Sobra Leia (aparentemente mulher da velha trilogia pode) e os novos. Agrada todo mundo. Ou mesmo que não agradasse, seria um saída honrosa (e com possibilidade do Luke voltar no último episódio pra salvar a pátria e, aí sim, morrer como herói).

Putz, muito ruim pensar em todas as possibilidades.

 

[Monogo]

Por mais que vc assista o StarWars antigão hj e veja muitos cliches e etc, tem que se lembra que ele tem 42 anos de idade, (se conta como o de 77)

Naquela época, tudo apresentado era novidade e pioneirismo.

Então se vc acha que dizer que o primeiro StarWars é boboca e raso como justificativa pra esses novos tb serem, vc esta atirando no novo filme e no próprio pé.

 

[Goris]

Por mais que vc assista o StarWars antigão hj e veja muitos cliches e etc, tem que se lembra que ele tem 42 anos de idade, (se conta como o de 77)

Naquela época, tudo apresentado era novidade e pioneirismo.

Então se vc acha que dizer que o primeiro StarWars é boboca e raso como justificativa pra esses novos tb serem, vc esta atirando no novo filme e no próprio pé.

A Disney não entendeu Star Wars.

Por isso, também nunca conseguiu entender os fãs de Star Wars. Quando reclamaram da Rey ser uma Mary Sue, era por ela ser perfeita demais, o que tira a imersão. O que entenderam? Era que odiavam mulheres fortes. Pô, exatamente o que você disse, Monogo, a mulher forte era a Leia que antes de Ripley e antes de Sarah Connor batia de frente com o Han Solo, salvava a vida deles e era uma importante membro da rebelião. Ou seja, o cliché que eles tavam usando em 2015 já era velho em 1977, tanto que Star Wars pulou ele, nada de heroína perfeita.

Mas como explicar isso pra quem não quer entender?

 

[RedKnight]

Pra variar, fico pensando, o que custava a Rey ser filha do Luke já pra começo de conversa, havendo primos e primas filhos dos Solo e toda a trama ir com isso em diante?

Seria uma das linhas mais viaveis essa, até pq o próprio ep.vii já colocava a deixa pra isso, quando a Maz passa o sabre pra Rey dizendo que foi "de Luke, e do pai dele, e agora chama por ela". Mas aí os caras seguem aquela linha dela não ser ninguém, filha de ninguém, blablabla, taí o resultado, tudo bagunçado

 

[Goris]

Seria uma das linhas mais viaveis essa, até pq o próprio ep.vii já colocava a deixa pra isso, quando a Maz passa o sabre pra Rey dizendo que foi "de Luke, e do pai dele, e agora chama por ela". Mas aí os caras seguem aquela linha dela não ser ninguém, filha de ninguém, blablabla, taí o resultado, tudo bagunçado

Sempre acabo voltando ao filme anterior (que não é assunto deste tópico) mas a vontade de "quebrar expectativas" foi tão grande que o cara achou que se fizesse isso de 5 em 5 minutos, seria idolatrado.

Em O Império Contra-Ataca, houve várias quebras de expectativas.

Os vilões venceram, caramba, em 1980 isso era impossível.

Lando Calrissian, negão amigão e malandro, traindo os heróis?

Mais ainda, Darth Vader ser o pai de Like? Imagino em 1980 as pessoas saindo dos cinemas com a cabeça explodindo. A revelação devia ser, numa proporção muuuuto maior, a morte de Ned Stark em Game of Thrones.

Entao, quebra de expectativas e Star Wars tem tudo a ver. Mas não nesse nível de uma quebra, outra quebra, outra, outra e outra, de forma que parece que a história foi feita pra funcionar em cima das quebras e não as quebras usadas pra fazer funcionar a história.

Aí, deu no que deu.

 

[Chris Redfield jr]

Sabe o que acho engraçado da galera? Que ela mede o sucesso de Star Wars pela bilheteria. Alguém aqui já assistiu o documentário Brinquedos que marcam época, da netflix? Pois tem um episódio todo dedicado a Star Wars.
Nele, a gente descobre que Lucas ficou 20 anos sem fazer um novo filme só para poder reaver os direitos de exploração da linha de brinquedos. Sim, Lucas fez um acordo m**** para a fabricação dos brinquedos. Havia uma clausula neste contrato que dizia que independentemente de os brinquedos venderem, a fabricante deveria pagar por ano 10 mil (sim, dez mil) dólares para poder manter os direitos de exploração de brinquedos do filme. Lucas deixou de ganhar milhões. Mas aí ele resolveu não fazer mais os filmes. Levou fudidos 13 anos para a fabricante perder o interesse comercial nesse contrato, e não mandou o cheque de 10 mil pra Lucas. No dia seguinte, tava os direitos dos brinquedos novamente com ele.

Então, meus amigos, se uma empresa como a disney não consegue ter retorno financeiro na linha de brinquedos Star wars, podem ter certeza de que eles não estão contentes, pois os filmes não passam de reles ferramentas para vender brinquedos. Todos aqueles desenhos animados dos anos 80 com os quais crescemos amando foram um mero subterfúgio para arrancar dinheiro dos nossos pais e avós. He-man, GiJoe, She-ra, ThunderCats, Ursinhos carinhosos, Smurfs, tudo aquilo tinha uma linha de brinquedos por trás para arrecadar bilhões.

Lembrem-se: George Lucas não matou Han Solo e preferiu congela-lo em carbonita por um unico motivo: não dá pra vender brinquedo de gente morta.

 

[Chris Redfield jr]

Palpatine Will Have An Entire Fleet Of Death Stars In Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

“Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have peace.”

Those words, uttered by Emperor Palpatine himself, will no doubt have grave implications for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, the ninth and final installment in Lucasfilm’s core saga which signals the long-rumored second coming of Ian McDiarmid’s wicked mastermind.

First teased during Episode IX‘s debut trailer, which ended with that instantly recognizable cackle echoing in the darkness, we know all too well that Palpatine has a big, big role to play – particularly now that Supreme Leader Snoke is no longer a threat, after he was brushed aside during The Last Jedi.

Exactly what Palpatine has planned for Rey and Co. remains to be seen – chances are that Force vision has something to do with him coaxing Daisy Ridley’s heroine to the Dark Side – though according to the latest rumors, Episode IX will empower Emperor Palpatine with an entire fleet of Death Stars. And they’ll be controlled by the blood-red Sith Troopers.

Of course, the exact specifics of Palpatine’s master plan are still being kept locked away in the Lucasfilm vaults and one could argue that the introduction of another Death Star would be… somewhat boring? The Original Trilogy already contained two, while The Force Awakens rendered a Death Star-esque superweapon of its own in Starkiller Base. That being said, though, this intel comes to us from the same sources who revealed that Ewan McGregor was returning as Obi-Wan, and that Rey will have a special connection to the Emperor, which Making Star Wars has since confirmed, so we have no reason to doubt it.

In any case, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker shoots for theaters on December 20th – just over three months from now, meaning the countdown is well and truly on. It’ll also arrive on the heels of The Mandalorian, another hotly-anticipated Star Wars project that’s due to launch alongside Disney+, the upcoming streaming service jam-packed with big-name titles.


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Voto com o relator.

Cara, que negócio retardado esse.
Tipo quando pegaram os Walkers e deram uma bombada, ou fazendo cruzadores cada vez maiores para tentar impressionar. É tão infantil que chega a ser idiota.

 

[Darth_Tyranus]

Por mais que vc assista o StarWars antigão hj e veja muitos cliches e etc, tem que se lembra que ele tem 42 anos de idade, (se conta como o de 77)

Naquela época, tudo apresentado era novidade e pioneirismo.

Então se vc acha que dizer que o primeiro StarWars é boboca e raso como justificativa pra esses novos tb serem, vc esta atirando no novo filme e no próprio pé.

Star Wars reciclava seriados de TV, filmes e livros de ficção científica de 30 anos antes. Os letreiros, por exemplo, foram copiados de Flash Gordon, as roupas e o roteiro tem forte inspiração nas obras de Akira Kurosawa, e assim por diante. A novidade foi reunir tudo ao mesmo tempo para construir algo novo, além de que o filme era muito acelerado em relação ao que o público estava acostumado na década de 1970, principalmente em relação a "ficção científica" e "fantasia espacial", eram gêneros com ritmo lento.

A trilogia prequela também foi inovadora do ponto de vista técnico. O Episódio II foi um dos primeiros ou mesmo o primeiro filme filmado inteiramente com câmeras digitais. Além do que praticamente todos os cenários eram digitais. Apesar de tudo parecer falso, na época foi bem impressionante, abriu caminho para tudo que existe hoje em relação a efeitos especiais. Devo lembrar que Jar Jar Binks, em 1999, antecedeu Gollum (Senhor dos Anéis), de 2002, como personagem totalmente digital que interagia com os atores reais. Provavelmente sem um não teríamos ao outro.

A trilogia sequel não promoveu nada de novo, não se tornou um campo de testes e falhou até mesmo na potencialidade de, quem sabe, entregar um filme interessante.

 

[Askeladd]

todos sofremos da sindrome de mulher de vagabundo com star wars.. apanha apanha mas ele chama e a gente vai correndo feliz achando que vai ser legal!

Visualmente é bonito. Depois que a Disney comprou esperava até musicais no meio do filme. Filme para ver quarta feira (meia entrada) curtir os efeitos e poder meter o pau sem dó.
Duro é ver o império reduzido a um bando de imbecis mimados.
A parte boa que não comprei nada de Star wars nos últimos anos, e olha que na Hi Happy tinha uns bonecos por R$ 9,90 e nem assim animou.

 

[Bloodstained]

Star Wars: A Ascensão Skywalker – J. J. Abrams explica porque Palpatine está voltando para o último filme da franquia

O próximo filme de Star Wars promete encerrar a saga dos Skywalker, começada lá na década de 70 com o primeiro episódio da franquia. E uma das referências mais fortes do nono filme à história original é a volta do grande vilão Palpatine.

Isso, é claro, causou um burburinho entre os fãs, que parecem céticos em relação a decisão de ressuscitar o personagem, morto por Darth Vader em O Retorno do Jedi.

Sobre esse assunto, o diretor J.J. Abrams, que volta a assumir o cargo depois de dirigir O Despertar da Força, falou sobre como a volta do Darth Sidious é uma maneira de amarrar toda a saga.

“Algumas pessoas acham que não devemos revisitar a ideia de Palpatine, e eu entendo completamente isso”, disse Abrams a Empire Magazine. “Mas se você ver os nove filmes como uma história, não conheço muitos livros em que os últimos capítulos não têm nada a ver com os que vieram antes. Se você olhar para os oito primeiros filmes, todas as configurações do que estamos apresentando no IX estão à vista.”

O retorno de Palpatine, de fato, parece trazer a série de volta ao começo. Afinal, ele se fez presente na segunda trilogia de Star Wars, como o senador representando Naboo no Senado Galáctico; e teve um grande papel na trilogia original como o Imperador. Quais consequências a aparição do vilão na nova trilogia trará para a franquia? Descobriremos com o lançamento de A Ascensão Skywalker.


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O que Jar Jar Abrams realmente queria dizer era o seguinte: "O FDP do Ruin Johnson matou o Snoke, que era o grande vilão dessa trilogia, então fiquei sem escolha. Tive que trazer a desgraça do Imperador de volta!" O único problema é que o Mickey não deixou ele falar nada disso, evidentemente.

 

[Guren]

Star Wars: A Ascensão Skywalker – J. J. Abrams explica porque Palpatine está voltando para o último filme da franquia

O próximo filme de Star Wars promete encerrar a saga dos Skywalker, começada lá na década de 70 com o primeiro episódio da franquia. E uma das referências mais fortes do nono filme à história original é a volta do grande vilão Palpatine.

Isso, é claro, causou um burburinho entre os fãs, que parecem céticos em relação a decisão de ressuscitar o personagem, morto por Darth Vader em O Retorno do Jedi.

Sobre esse assunto, o diretor J.J. Abrams, que volta a assumir o cargo depois de dirigir O Despertar da Força, falou sobre como a volta do Darth Sidious é uma maneira de amarrar toda a saga.




O retorno de Palpatine, de fato, parece trazer a série de volta ao começo. Afinal, ele se fez presente na segunda trilogia de Star Wars, como o senador representando Naboo no Senado Galáctico; e teve um grande papel na trilogia original como o Imperador. Quais consequências a aparição do vilão na nova trilogia trará para a franquia? Descobriremos com o lançamento de A Ascensão Skywalker.


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O que Jar Jar Abrams realmente queria dizer era o seguinte: "O FDP do Ruin Johnson matou o Snoke, que era o grande vilão dessa trilogia, então fiquei sem escolha. Tive que trazer a desgraça do Imperador de volta!" O único problema é que o Mickey não deixou ele falar nada disso, evidentemente.

Esse é o maior problema dessa nova saga, não tem um vilão q presta

 

[RedKnight]

O que Jar Jar Abrams realmente queria dizer era o seguinte: "O FDP do Ruin Johnson matou o Snoke, que era o grande vilão dessa trilogia, então fiquei sem escolha. Tive que trazer a desgraça do Imperador de volta!" O único problema é que o Mickey não deixou ele falar nada disso, evidentemente.

Palpatine nesse filme vai me dar a sensação de estar com a trama que seria do Snoke se o idiota do Ruim Jonson não tivesse matado de maneira ridicula o que deveria ser o grande vilão dessa trilogia. E o pior é que ninguém da disney disse "ei, não é pra matar ele agora c***lho" :/
Alias não seria mais fácil ressuscitar Snoke, ao inves do Palpatine? "Ah, mas ele foi cortado no meio", e daí, Maul tb foi e voltou nos desenhos(e no filme do Solo), não teria problema nenhum dizer que ele sobreviveu graças a alguma caracteristica da raça dele, enfim.

 

[Goris]

Palpatine nesse filme vai me dar a sensação de estar com a trama que seria do Snoke se o idiota do Ruim Jonson não tivesse matado de maneira ridicula o que deveria ser o grande vilão dessa trilogia. E o pior é que ninguém da disney disse "ei, não é pra matar ele agora c***lho" :/
Alias não seria mais fácil ressuscitar Snoke, ao inves do Palpatine? "Ah, mas ele foi cortado no meio", e daí, Maul tb foi e voltou nos desenhos(e no filme do Solo), não teria problema nenhum dizer que ele sobreviveu graças a alguma caracteristica da raça dele, enfim.

É igual eu disse, qualquer coisa que vc fizer depois da m**** de TLJ já vai virar remendo.

Snoke de volta seria confessar que o filme foi ruim.

E a KK admitir isso seria admitir que ela feo fez m****.

 

[Uzumaki.Luffy]

Esse é o maior problema dessa nova saga, não tem um vilão q presta

O mesmo vale para os heróis.