Tópico oficial GPUs Intel Arc

[LucianoBraga]

E textura geralmente só custa RAM, então se o cara tiver pelo menos um SSD e uma CPU pelo menos 4C que consiga puxar rápido, compensa setar.

 

[T1mp4s]

sobre esse negocio de ultra, tem settings em ultra que realmente fazem diferença, e outras nao, e depende do game.

no RDR2, textura em ultra faz muita diferença, efeitos de iluminação também melhoram bastante. Mas tem um monte de settings lá, que em ultra e high nao faz diferença nenhuma.

por isso o ideal é otimizar mexendo nas settings pra mistura high com ultra, conforme fez o Hardware unboxed naquele video de otimização ideal do RDR2.

E textura geralmente só custa RAM, então se o cara tiver pelo menos um SSD e uma CPU pelo menos 4C que consiga puxar rápido, compensa setar.

Essa discussão era do outro tópico não?

 

[LucianoBraga]

Essa discussão era do outro tópico não?

Possível, mas ele postou e eu aproveitei o gancho porque informação serve pra todo mundo.
Eu nem tava discutindo no outro tópico, lol

 

[Skinner Sweet]

Essa a380 me interessa, chegar aqui por uns 1300 eu compro

 

[LucianoBraga]

Antes de ler a notícia abaixo: driver do Windows 11 Insider é o 30.0.101.1985 atualmente, mas o disponível pra download por meios normais ainda é o 30.0.101.1660. Sei lá que porra a Intel tá planejando.​

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Intel in the water for lack of promised driver updates and GPUs for ARC Graphics​

Over one month ago, Intel assured customers that the Intel ARC graphics lineup would see a driver update. Readers will remember that Intel created a separate branch code for the ARC and Iris drivers, which was older than the primary support that they have given for most of their integrated graphics.

Intel ARC line runs out of GPUs and misses the date set for updated driver support for the line​

The company's initial plans were to offer an updated driver by the last part of April, including the capability to deactivate optimizations focused on benchmarking. Including this update with the option to activate or deactivate the optimization would allow users to achieve more validity in their UL 3D mark benchmark test scores. With it currently missing, any UL 3D Mark tests processed with included optimization would be considered invalid due to UL's policies. However, the performance at this point sites at an increase of fifteen percent.

AMD will infuse EPYC CPUs with Xilinx-based FPGA AI Engines, starting as early as 2023

By the end of April, we will add a UI option that allows users to toggle these benchmark specific optimizations on and off. This gives anyone the ability to see the top-level Intel Arc hardware potential of a fully optimized workload, as well as general benchmark performance. When the toggle is in place and the benchmark optimizations are disabled by default, the driver will be eligible for approval by UL.
— Lisa Pearce, VP and GM, Intel Visual Compute Group

The image above shows the current graphics driver as '30.0.101.1330 (Latest)' and is dated April 8, 2022. The primary branch, the version ending in 1660, is still available, and the company's most recent beta version ended in 1934. There are no current plans to combine the main branch with the Intel ARC-specific branch, which could mean that we will always have two separate versions that will not be compatible.

NVIDIA has "jokingly" attacked businesses that choose to create various code branches, which can easily confuse new users and longtime users.

There is no current information to tell us when the company will release the newest drivers from Intel, but their track record on drivers has continually been slow. One of the Rocket Lake processors missed a driver release, which did not help Intel's public image.

Intel in the water for lack of promised driver updates and GPUs for ARC Graphics

Intel fails again to release a driver update on time, leaving consumers wondering when the newest update will release.

wccftech.com

 

[Krion]

Intel confirms desktop Arc will be China exclusive at launch​

Intel admits Arc GPUs are delayed and encountered software problems​

Lisa Pearce, VP and GM for Intel Visual Compute Group, explained the reasons behind the delays of the Arc hardware and software.

If you were considering buying Intel Arc GPU, it is probably time to think about their competitors. The most anticipated launch this year has hit another delay, which is nicely explained as a limited launch for certain regions. First it was Arc mobile which has only been released by Samsung in South Korea, now its Arc desktop to be released exclusively by Chinese OEMs.

To make matters worse, Intel admits that even then it will still launch exclusively for Chinese retailer market and only later it will expand globally. The company confirms that OEMs and system integrators will take priority ‘later this summer’, while components sales worldwide are to be expected later. When? Probably late enough for you to consider NVIDIA RTX 40 and AMD RX 7000 series a better option at that point.

What Intel explains as a ‘staggered approach’ is a completely opposite of what we expected. Indeed, no one expected a full lineup of cards to be released this at the same time, but keeping Arc GPUs exclusive to Asia for the weeks to come is simply inexcusable. This should have been communicated a long time ago, not when the media started to ask where are Intel Arc GPUs. The answer is: there aren’t any, unless you are invited to Intel HQ or live in Asia.

Question #2: When are the desktop cards with Intel Arc graphics coming?
Unlike notebook designs, desktop systems have a vast set of combinations, including memory, motherboards, and CPUs. To initially limit some of this variation, we will launch working with system builders and OEMs with specific configurations.
We will release our entry-level Intel Arc A-series products for desktops (A3) first in China through system builders and OEMs in Q2. Etail and retail component sales will follow shortly in China as well. Proximity to board components and strong demand for entry-level discrete products makes this a natural place to start. Our next step will be to scale these products globally.
Roll-out of Intel Arc A5 and A7 desktop cards will start worldwide with OEMs and system integrators later this summer, followed by component sales in worldwide channels.
This staggered approach gives us confidence at each step that we can effectively serve our customer base.

In other words, the 2022 Rollout that Intel has presented at the beginning of this year clearly did not mention the exclusiveness for certain markets. We can probably forget about global arability of Intel Arc GPUs for weeks to come.



Source: Intel

 

[LucianoBraga]

Normal. Maior mercado, fabricam os chips lá, não tem confusão de logística. Outras marcas fazem a mesma coisa, fora os modelos exclusivos pro mercado chinês.

 

[Gray-fox]

Intel Arc desktop graphics cards from Intel are further delayed (could be September)

Byt the time these get released, they'll be outdated. According to Intel's official statement, Arc desktop graphics cards will not be available in the nearest future....

www.guru3d.com

Já dá pra considerar as ARC alchemist natimortas?

 

[wtsds]

Intel Arc desktop graphics cards from Intel are further delayed (could be September)

Byt the time these get released, they'll be outdated. According to Intel's official statement, Arc desktop graphics cards will not be available in the nearest future....

www.guru3d.com

Já dá pra considerar as ARC alchemist natimortas?

Se a Intel cobrar um valor decente acho q não. É melhor eles atrasarem do q entregar um produto todo zoado nos drivers!
Pq a impressão é a primeira q fica. Se alguém compra uma placa deles e tem um bom feedback, a Intel pode abraçar de primeiro momento o mercado de entrada e médio.

 

[LucianoBraga]

Pior que o que eu tenho visto da A370M tem sido interessante, efetivamente trocando porrada com a 3050 - mas consumindo 30W.

Estar duas gerações atrás não é um problema inatacável. A AMD esteve várias vezes e sobreviveu - mesmo tendo muito menos dinheiro. Com o refresh da RDNA2 agora, alcançou a Nvidia em performance. Só que a Intel vai ter que compensar no preço.

 

[wtsds]

Pior que o que eu tenho visto da A370M tem sido interessante, efetivamente trocando porrada com a 3050 - mas consumindo 30W.

Estar duas gerações atrás não é um problema inatacável. A AMD esteve várias vezes e sobreviveu - mesmo tendo muito menos dinheiro. Com o refresh da RDNA2 agora, alcançou a Nvidia em performance. Só que a Intel vai ter que compensar no preço.

Fora q eles já querem lançar o Batllemage (sucessora) ano q vem dobrando a potencia dessa série!
E se essa série alquimista for bem recebida sem dores de cabeça com drivers ou qualquer coisa, acho q a Intel tem chances de brigar forte. Vai depender do preço. Pq pra atrair novos players precisa ser muito agressiva nos preços!

 

[Krion]

Intel Arc A770 desktop GPU on display​

At Intel Extreme Masters (IEM) 2022 in Dallas (US), Intel is displaying its upcoming desktop Arc Alchemist graphics card.

 

[Krion]

Intel’s First Arc Custom Graphics Card Pictured, Meet The GUNNIR Arc A380 Photon 6 GB With Full ACM-G11 GPU, Starting at $150 US​

Intel's first custom Arc graphics card, the GUNNIR Arc A380 Photon 6 GB which features a full ACM-G11 GPU, has been pictured.

GUNNIR Unveils The Arc A380 Photon 6 GB Graphics Card, The First Intel Arc Custom Design Starting at $150 US​

GUNNIR has become a very popular graphics card manufacturer in the Asian Pacific OEM & Pre-built PC segment. They have been amongst the first to offer custom flavors of the DG1 graphics card in custom flavor and they are now back with the first custom DG2 graphics card, the GUNNIR Arc A380 Photon which features 6 GB of GDDR6 memory and the full ACM-G11 GPU from Intel.




The Intel Arc A380 graphics card will be an entry-level design featuring the full ACM-G11 GPU that utilizes the Alchemist Xe-HPG architecture. It houses the full GPU configuration, making use of 8 Xe-Cores or 1024 ALUs. The graphics card also features 6 GB of GDDR6 memory running at TBP rated at around 92W. The maximum frequency for the card is rated at 2450 MHz which shows that Intel is taking full advantage of TSMC's 6nm process node. The GUNNIR custom model features a VRAM clock of 15.5 Gbps for 186 GB/s bandwidth while the reference model features a 16 Gbps clock for 192 GB/s bandwidth.



As for the graphics card itself, the GUNNIR Arc A380 Photon comes in a standard box package that features the Intel Arc 3, XeSS, and DirectX 12 Ultimate marketing logos. The graphics card itself is a dual-slot and dual-fan design which houses an aluminum heatsink underneath it. The shroud and backplate feature a nice dual-tone black+grey color theme plus the backplate extends beyond the PCB. There's a single 6mm nickel-plated copper heat pipe that runs through the heatsink.

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It is not known if the card uses a custom PCB or a reference design but it does come with a single 8-pin power connector to boot and houses a 2+1 phase VRM design. The shroud features the 'Intel Arc' logo on the side and has a GUNNIR Photon logo that lights up with LED illumination, giving even the entry-level card a more premium look.


There's also a blue and black colored trim on the backplate which enhances the looks of the card. Display outputs include three DisplayPort & a single HDMI output. The fans are two 90mm designs and the card measures 222×114×42mm.



The reference Intel Arc A380 graphics card has also been officially announced for the Chinese market. The card features a dual-slot and single-fan design. Compared to the GUNNIR variant which rocks an overclocked design, the reference model features a 2000 MHz clock speed plus a TBP of 75W which means that it won't require any external power connector. The graphics card ships this summer in various pre-built from leading manufacturers such as ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ACER, etc plus will also be available in DIY custom flavors such as the GUNNIR model above.

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While the GUNNIR Arc A380 Photon 6 GB graphics card has been made official we expect the card to remain an Asian-market only GPU offering with other manufacturers bringing the Arc A380 and the rest of the higher-end lineup to the market by later Summer in other regions. The graphics card is currently priced at 1030 Chinese Yuan or $150 US which is a very reasonable price point for the entry-level segment given the features it packs. Now it is only a question of when it will become available in other regions.

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As for performance, Intel claims that the Arc A380 is up to 25% faster than the AMD Radeon RX 6400 4 GB graphics card which should put it around the RX 6500 XT for $50 US less. Following is official test performance results provided by Intel:

When paired with a compatible processor
Claim: The Intel Arc A380 GPU, with a recommended customer price of 1,030 yuan, delivers up to 25% better performance per yuan than available competitive offerings as measured by performance on a selection of popular games.
GPU(s): Intel® Arc™ A380 6GB reference card
AMD Radeon RX 6400 4GB
System Configuration: Intel® Arc™ A380 configuration: Graphics Driver: 30.0.101.1735, Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-12600K, MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4, BIOS: 1.3, Memory: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 @ 3200MHz, Storage: MP600 PRO XT 4TB, OS: Windows 11 Version 10.0.22000.675
AMD Radeon RX 6400 configuration: Graphics Driver: 30.0.15021.11005, Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-12600K, MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4, BIOS: 1.3, Memory: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 @ 3200MHz, Storage: MP600 PRO XT 4TB, OS: Windows 11 Version 10.0.22000.675
Measurements: All FPS (frames per second) scores are either measured with PresentMon or in-game benchmark. All gameplay has a documented workload running the same replay or game scenario across all configurations and test runs.
Game workloads that support this claim are Naraka Bladepoint (27)%, JX Remake (27%), F1 2021 (26%), Rust (24%), Total Saga: Troy (22%), The Witcher 3 (22%), Arcadegeddon (21%), Metro Exodus (18%), NiZhan (16%), Wolfenstein: Youngblood (15%), Destiny 2 (14%).
All games tested at 1080p resolution and medium settings presets.
Period: Pricing and testing as of June 12, 2022. Radeon RX 6400 pricing of 1199 yuan on JD.com.
via Intel

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Intel Arc A-Series Desktop Graphics Card Lineup 'Rumored':​

Graphics Card Variant	GPU Variant	GPU Die	Execution Units	Shading Units (Cores)	Memory Capacity	Memory Speed	Memory Bus	TGP
Arc A780	Xe-HPG 512EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G10	512 EUs (TBD)	4096 (TBD)	16 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	256-bit	~275W
Arc A770	Xe-HPG 512EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G10	512 EUs (TBD)	4096 (TBD)	16 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	256-bit	~250W
Arc A770	Xe-HPG 512EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G10	512 EUs (TBD)	4096 (TBD)	8 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	256-bit	~250W
Arc A750	Xe-HPG 384EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G10	384 EUs (TBD)	3072 (TBD)	12 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	192-bit	~200W
Arc A580	Xe-HPG 256EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G10	256 EUs (TBD)	2048 (TBD)	8 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	128-bit	~150W
Arc A380	Xe-HPG 128EU (TBD)	Arc ACM-G11	128 EUs (TBD)	1024 (TBD)	6 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	96-bit	~100W
Arc A350	Xe-HPG 96 (TBD)	Arc ACM-G11	96 EUs (TBD)	768 (TBD)	4 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	64-bit	~75W
Arc A310	Xe-HPG 64 (TBD)	Arc ACM-G11	64 EUs (TBD)	512 (TBD)	4 GB GDDR6	16 Gbps	64-bit	~50W

 

[Krion]

Intel Arc A380 desktop GPU finally tested​

Today Intel lifts the review embargo on its first Arc Alchemist desktop graphics cards.


Intel Arc A380 GPU test, Source: Shenmedounengce



The reviews posted today focus on the GUNNIR A380 Photon graphics card, which is thus far the only custom card based on this Intel desktop GPU.

The first results came from Shenmedounengce who tested the card on a mid-range Intel Alder Lake system with Core i5-12400 CPU, B660 motherboard and DDR4 memory. The card was compared against NVIDIA RTX 3050/GTX 1650 and AMD RX 6500XT/6400 graphics cards, all considered entry-level offering.

The A380 offers full ACM-G11 GPU with 8 Xe-Cores, 6GB of GDDR6 memory across 96-bit bus. In terms of clock, this model is clocked at 2.45 GHz (boost) and the memory is configured for 15.5 Gbps, despite the fact it uses Samsung 16 Gbps modules.


Intel Arc A380 GPU test, Source: Shenmedounengce



In synthetic 3DMark tests, Intel GPU is faster than RX 6400/6500XT graphics cards, while being slightly slower than RTX 3050 GPU. This is a correct statement for both Time Spy and Port Royal test. In this ray-tracing test, it scored almost twice as high as AMD Navi 24 GPUs, but NVIDIA card was still 3.7x faster in this particular test.

Gaming tests include League of Legends, PUBG, GTA5, Tom Raider, Forza Horizon 5 and Red Dead Redemption II. Unfortunately in terms of gaming performance the A380 is not going very well, as it is outperformed in every single title at 1080p resolution.


Intel Arc A380 GPU test, Source: Shenmedounengce



Intel Arc A380 graphics cards launched exclusively in China last week. This graphics card is not yet available for sale, but initial listing show that this SKU will cost more than Intel’s suggested retail price of 1030 CNY.

Source: Shenmedounengce (Bilibili)

 

[LucianoBraga]

Resultado discrepante demais entre os sintéticos e os práticos. Sinal de que os drivers estão muito, muito ruins.
Se a Intel conseguir puxar, vai ser mais "fine wine" do que a AMD.

 

[durabolin]

É, minha 1070 da testa pra essas placas novas de entrada...
Bom que seguro meu up pro segundo semestre. Até lá resolvo se pego uma 3060 ou 4060...

Ruim da série 40xx será o consumo astronômico. Não quero isso pra minha vida não. Cabei de dar um up no PC e trocar de fonte tá fora dos planos.

 

[Krion]

Intel ARC A750 pictured some more, features 8-pin and 6-pin power connectors​

Intel Arc A750 graphics card​

Tom Petersen and Ryan Shrout from Intel visited Gamers Nexus studio to talk about the new Arc Alchemist desktop graphics cards.


Intel Arc A750, Source: GamersNexus



The video from GamersNexus is an overview of the Arc desktop series, including product stack explanation and the state of the driver development. It is also a showcase of the new A380 entry-level model and higher-end SKU known as A750. This is in fact the first time Intel has confirmed and shown the A750 in public.

It was revealed that the A750 was indeed the same card that was on display at IEM 2022 in June. What this means that the card shown there was in fact not equipped in the full ACM-G10 GPU as speculated. That said, one cannot be sure what the Limited Edition actually means here, but given what we already know, it might just be a special edition for display.


Intel Arc A750, Source: GamersNexus



Unfortunately, the specifications of the A750 were not confirmed by Intel employees. The company representatives have only said that the launch of these cards is ‘sooner than we think’. The product name suggests it is a cut-down ACM-G10 GPU, most likely with 24 Xe-Cores paired with 12GB of GDDR6 memory.


Intel Arc A750, Source: GamersNexus



The A750 card was shown from many angles, including the side where two power connectors 8-pin and 6-pin are located. Such configuration could theoretically deliver up to of 225W plus additional 75W through the PCI-Express slot.

Earlier today the first photo of desktop Arc Alchemist A310 graphics card (supposedly) has emerged. Technically this means that we have now seen 3 out of 5 desktop SKUs that are in the pipeline from Intel.

The full lineup of Alchemist desktop GPUs is still a bit of a mystery. However, we can now also add a MSRP column to our rumored spec table. Tom Petersen confirmed today that although there is no official MSRP for Arc A380 for the US market yet (the card exclusively launched in China), once it becomes available in the country the retail price should range from 129 to 139 USD.

VideoCardz.com	GPU	Xe Cores	Memory Size	Memory Bus	MSRP
RUMORED Desktop Intel ARC Alchemist Series Specifications
Arc A770	ACM-G10	32	16GB GDDR6	256-bit	TBC
Arc A750	ACM-G10	24	12GB GDDR6	192-bit	TBC
Arc A580	ACM-G10	16	8GB GDDR6	128-bit	TBC
Arc A380	ACM-G11	8	6GB GDDR6	96-bit	$129-$139
Arc A310	ACM-G11	4	4GB GDDR6	64-bit	TBC

Source:

 

[wtsds]

A Intel soltou um slides sobre essa A750. E em 5 jogos ela bateu a 3060 da Nvidia. Fiquei até surpreso! Mas dai pelo review do gamernexus, se a placa não tiver com rizese bar la ativado, q só tem nas placas mães da intel, o desempenho da placa parece q cai mais de 50%. Pra quem tem AMD tem q correr dessas placas da Intel!

 

[LucianoBraga]

A Intel soltou um slides sobre essa A750. E em 5 jogos ela bateu a 3060 da Nvidia. Fiquei até surpreso! Mas dai pelo review do gamernexus, se a placa não tiver com rizese bar la ativado, q só tem nas placas mães da intel, o desempenho da placa parece q cai mais de 50%. Pra quem tem AMD tem q correr dessas placas da Intel!

O que a AMD chama de "Smart Access Memory" é o Resizable Bar.
Então, se o cara tem bios atualizada em A520, B550 ou X570 e CPU Zen 2 ou Zen 3, tá coberto.

 

[wtsds]

O que a AMD chama de "Smart Access Memory" é o Resizable Bar.
Então, se o cara tem bios atualizada em A520, B550 ou X570 e CPU Zen 2 ou Zen 3, tá coberto.

Mas no video ele falou q essa m**** só funciona com placas mães Intel! Então entendi errado!

 

[LucianoBraga]

Mas no video ele falou q essa m**** só funciona com placas mães Intel! Então entendi errado!

Tecnicamente, Resizable Bar é só na Intel porque a AMD chama de Smart Access Memory, mas é o mesmo recurso. Não tem motivo de ordem prática pra funcionar em uma e não na outra, a não ser que a Intel tenha travado intencionalmente, o que seria extremamente imbecil pra quem tá entrando num mercado do zero.

 

[Passo's]

AMD tem o SAM que funciona inclusive em b450(depende da bios)


Se ela ta lançando placa que depende disso já não é lá uma boa notícia.

 

[LucianoBraga]

O foda, embora compreensível, é que a Intel tá concentrando os esforços em jogos DX12 e Vulkan. DX11 pra trás os jogos até funcionam, mas aquém do esperado. Inclusive vários jogos não abrem, ou dão crashes, ou têm artefatos, etc.

E aí, eles tem um Community Tracker pros bugs de driver, e quando são notificados do bug vão lá e dizem "então, a gente olhou o Steam Charts e há poucos usuários simultâneos, então não é prioridade", o que é na verdade um put* de um "f**a-se, vai que a gente conserta outra coisa e resolve o problema desse por acidente".

Isso mesmo pra jogos relativamente novos...pro Ghosts N' Goblins Ressurrection, a resposta foi essa:

"Just wanted to let you know that this issue has been marked as “future” in our internal bug tracking tool. This means that the issue will not be worked on for the time been, as the development team has limited resources and tries to focus first on the issues affecting the most users. This game has gotten less than 40 peak users in the last six months, making any issue specific to this game low priority to fix. If in the future our development team has the resources available to come back to this issue, it may be fixed. However, we cannot commit to any timeframe for this."

De novo: é compreensível, mas porra...

E mesmo quando é um jogo que eles conseguem reproduzir o problema e falam que vão consertar, a resposta é essa:

"We were able to reproduce this issue and it has now been escalated to our driver development team. I just want to set the right expectation with you, as with the current workload, it may take from 3 to 6 months for a possible fix to be integrated into a release driver."

Isso pro fucking Forza Horizon 4.

Fora as regressões a cada update.

O que parece é que a Intel tem uma GPU arquiteturalmente boa mas um driver team de m****, e que isso não vai mudar no curto prazo.

 

[wtsds]

Tecnicamente, Resizable Bar é só na Intel porque a AMD chama de Smart Access Memory, mas é o mesmo recurso. Não tem motivo de ordem prática pra funcionar em uma e não na outra, a não ser que a Intel tenha travado intencionalmente, o que seria extremamente imbecil pra quem tá entrando num mercado do zero.

Mas foi isso q falaram. Eles travaram isso pra Intel meio q obrigado o caboclo a comprar uma plataforma Intel. É a atitude mais imbecil que eu já vi. É por isso q não da pra esperar nada dessa geração da Intel. Quem sabe na próxima!

 

[Krion]

Intel Arc Alchemist Flagship GPU to be Slower than NVIDIA’s RTX 3070, To Cost Less than $400 [Report]​

Intel’s 1st Gen Arc Alchemist graphics cards are yet to hit the retail markets in earnest. The handful of parts to hit the Asian markets have exhibited less than impressive gaming performance. The Arc A380, for example consistently loses to the Radeon RX 6400 despite Intel claiming otherwise. A leak from our colleagues at WCCFTech reveals that Intel’s performance targets for its 1st Gen Arc GPUs have dropped a notch. From its original destiny of being a GeForce RTX 3070 competitor, the Arc A770 is now going to compete with the RTX 3060 Ti (and probably fall short).

The A770 will come with 8 or 16GB of GDDR6 memory paired with a 256-bit bus and close to 4,000 ALUs. It’ll draw up to 225W of power and cost under $400. The Arc A750 will be a volume offering, tackling the RTX 3060 which is one of the most popular GPUs in the PC gaming space. It’ll debut with 8GB of GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit bus with a TDP of 225W and cost somewhere between $279 and $349.

	A770	A750	A580	A380	A310
Segment	Performance +	Performance+	Performance –	Mainstream –	Entry
TDP	225W	225W	175W	75W	75W
Memory	16/8 GB	8GB	8GB	6GB	4GB
Tentative MSRP	$349-$399	$279-$349	$200-249	$125-$149	~$100

In comparison, the GeForce RTX 3060 and 3060 Ti are going for $409 and $469, respectively on Newegg. AMD’s Radeon RX 6600 XT and 6700 XT, on the other hand, are priced at $339 and $439, respectively. These prices will keep dropping and by the time Intel comes around to releasing its dGPUs, they might very well be competing with the RTX 4060 and 4070.

Moving to the entry-level and low-end markets, we have the A580, A380, and A310. These segments have largely been ignored by the Red and Green Teams and may give Intel the opportunity to establish itself. The A580 will compete with the RTX 3050 in the $200-300 space. They’ll both draw around 150W of power and feature an 8GB VRAM buffer. At the moment, the RTX 3050 is still retailing over the $300 mark, making it a ripe opportunity for Intel to strike.

Finally, the A380 and A310 will battle the derelict GeForce GTX 1650 and 1050 with 6GB and 4GB of memory, respectively. And from the results we have seen till now, fail horribly at it. These SKUs will cost in the $100-150 range and draw up to 75W of power. These should form the bulk of the Arc Alchemist shipments.

 

[LucianoBraga]

A coisa mais interessante da resenha toda é o "engineering driver" que eles estão usando nesses testes.
Se eles não entregarem drivers decentes, podem entregar uma placa mais forte que uma 4090Ti que não adianta nada.

 

[Krion]

Os drivers de lançamento da Intel parece que estão meio

Intel Arc A380 discrete GPU reviews: “it’s like living in the middle of a minefield”​

Intel Arc A380 is crippled with software issues​

Intel Arc A380 reviews leave a stain on company’s reputation.


Intel Arc A380, Source: ComputerBase & Igor’sLAB



Western tech media is disappointed with how Intel introduced the Arc Alchemist GPUs. Not only the new discrete architecture was delayed, but also made exclusive to one country. This obviously did not stop them from acquiring samples on their own, however this obviously took more time. Some media outlets decided to buy A380 GPU together to save the cost of shipping from China. They also self-imposed an embargo on their reviews which has lifted today.

In addition to numerous Chinese reviews, this is the last couple of days have seen a review from Russian PRO Hi-Tech, Spanish Professional Review and three German outlets: Golem, Computer Base and Igor’sLAB. We have a round-up of many reviews here.

ComputerBase: “It’s like living in the middle of a minefield while playing drunk”:​

Problems with Intel Arc A380, Source: ComputerBase



Intel ARC A380 “is by no means a total failure“, notes ComputerBase. However, the GPU does not pair well with AMD’s slowest RDNA GPU (RX 6400) and NVIDIA’s 3-year-old GTX 1650. But the performance is not the only issue, the driver itself is a “construction site“, says the reviewer. Gaming experience is crippled with graphics issues and would often require a restart.

Gaming with Intel’s Arc A380, even with the latest driver, is like living in the middle of a minefield – mind you, playing while drunk. There is no other way to describe the past working days with the Arc A380. You don’t even know where to start. In its current state, it is completely incomprehensible how a large and reputable company like Intel can sell such a product to even a single customer.
— Wolfgang Andermahr, ComputerBase

Igor’sLAB: ARC A380 with ‘NOT APPROVED’ award​

Igor’sLAB reiterates ComputerBase’s claims that ARC A380 is simply not usable without ReBAR. The design of the GUNNIR card shows obvious cost-cutting and excessive power requirements. The card appears rushed and quickly assembled with thermal pads too thick and too much thermal paste overall. The graphics card was really this bad that Igor gave Arc A380 no approval, which is the second time ever that such ‘award’ was ever given to a tested product by the site.

No mining support yet​

But there is still some good news. Intel ARC A380 does not work with any mining software yet. Although crypt-craze is essentially over and mining profitability is questionable, with no support for mining software right now, Intel GPUs should be immune to any changes in this regard.



Intel Arc A380 graphics cards are not yet available for purchase outside of China. The company did not confirm when Arc Alchemist architecture will become available for DIY customers in other regions.

Source: ComputeBase, Igor’sLAB, Review Roundup

 

[durabolin]

"into the unknow" ou seja, é por sua conta e risco.

 

[T1mp4s]

Os drivers de lançamento da Intel parece que estão meio

Intel Arc A380 discrete GPU reviews: “it’s like living in the middle of a minefield”​

Intel Arc A380 is crippled with software issues​

Intel Arc A380 reviews leave a stain on company’s reputation.


Intel Arc A380, Source: ComputerBase & Igor’sLAB



Western tech media is disappointed with how Intel introduced the Arc Alchemist GPUs. Not only the new discrete architecture was delayed, but also made exclusive to one country. This obviously did not stop them from acquiring samples on their own, however this obviously took more time. Some media outlets decided to buy A380 GPU together to save the cost of shipping from China. They also self-imposed an embargo on their reviews which has lifted today.

In addition to numerous Chinese reviews, this is the last couple of days have seen a review from Russian PRO Hi-Tech, Spanish Professional Review and three German outlets: Golem, Computer Base and Igor’sLAB. We have a round-up of many reviews here.

ComputerBase: “It’s like living in the middle of a minefield while playing drunk”:​

Problems with Intel Arc A380, Source: ComputerBase



Intel ARC A380 “is by no means a total failure“, notes ComputerBase. However, the GPU does not pair well with AMD’s slowest RDNA GPU (RX 6400) and NVIDIA’s 3-year-old GTX 1650. But the performance is not the only issue, the driver itself is a “construction site“, says the reviewer. Gaming experience is crippled with graphics issues and would often require a restart.

Igor’sLAB: ARC A380 with ‘NOT APPROVED’ award​

Igor’sLAB reiterates ComputerBase’s claims that ARC A380 is simply not usable without ReBAR. The design of the GUNNIR card shows obvious cost-cutting and excessive power requirements. The card appears rushed and quickly assembled with thermal pads too thick and too much thermal paste overall. The graphics card was really this bad that Igor gave Arc A380 no approval, which is the second time ever that such ‘award’ was ever given to a tested product by the site.

No mining support yet​

But there is still some good news. Intel ARC A380 does not work with any mining software yet. Although crypt-craze is essentially over and mining profitability is questionable, with no support for mining software right now, Intel GPUs should be immune to any changes in this regard.



Intel Arc A380 graphics cards are not yet available for purchase outside of China. The company did not confirm when Arc Alchemist architecture will become available for DIY customers in other regions.

Source: ComputeBase, Igor’sLAB, Review Roundup

Opa, então nova rainha dos drivers ruins.

 

[LucianoBraga]

Opa, então nova rainha dos drivers ruins.

Pois é, falo disso literalmente há um ano, que foi quando eu comecei a "conviver" com os drivers da Xe. Perto da Intel, a AMD é o paraíso. Até pra você seria.

Mas é o que eu digo: eles tem uma boa GPU. O produto é bom, o suporte de APIs está lá, não tem falhas de hardware. Ela performa bem quando os drivers deixam. Esses testes aí mesmo provam isso, de um jogo pro outro ela performa acima da GTX 1650 e abaixo da RX 6400. Muito, muito errática.

Mas o que eu tenho visto nos testes mais positivos da Intel é sempre o tal do "engineering driver", que não tá disponível pra usuário final ainda.

 

[T1mp4s]

Pois é, falo disso literalmente há um ano, que foi quando eu comecei a "conviver" com os drivers da Xe. Perto da Intel, a AMD é o paraíso. Até pra você seria.

Mas é o que eu digo: eles tem uma boa GPU. O produto é bom, o suporte de APIs está lá, não tem falhas de hardware. Ela performa bem quando os drivers deixam. Esses testes aí mesmo provam isso, de um jogo pro outro ela performa acima da GTX 1650 e abaixo da RX 6400. Muito, muito errática.

Mas o que eu tenho visto nos testes mais positivos da Intel é sempre o tal do "engineering driver", que não tá disponível pra usuário final ainda.

Eu reclamo da amd, mas eu sabia dar uns dibres nos erros dele, era chato, mas dava pra se virar.
Mas a tranquilidade da nvidia é sem palavras, absurdo de bom.

 

[LucianoBraga]

Eu reclamo da amd, mas eu sabia dar uns dibres nos erros dele, era chato, mas dava pra se virar.
Mas a tranquilidade da nvidia é sem palavras, absurdo de bom.

É, Nvidia o cara instala e esquece. Via de regra, nem atualizar precisa.

 

[LucianoBraga]

DX12 e Vulkan? Bom. DX11 pra trás? Não é bom.
Mas basear o preço das placas na performance do desempenho de DX11 e inferiores é uma put* sacada - realmente só a Intel pra suportar um prejuízo desses.

E supostamente no mês que vem sai um pacote decente de drivers e aplicativos.

A ver.

 

[Haagenti]

DX12 e Vulkan? Bom. DX11 pra trás? Não é bom.
Mas basear o preço das placas na performance do desempenho de DX11 e inferiores é uma put* sacada - realmente só a Intel pra suportar um prejuízo desses.

E supostamente no mês que vem sai um pacote decente de drivers e aplicativos.

A ver.

Vim correndo postar isso.
Basicamente é uma AMD mais barata. Sem ter mais de 10 anos no mercado.

 

[LucianoBraga]

Vim correndo postar isso.
Basicamente é uma AMD mais barata. Sem ter mais de 10 anos no mercado.

Pois é, tem toda uma bagagem que não tem como recuperar, e aí eles tiveram que fazer uma escolha em relação ao suporte de API que, novamente, como eu disse, eu entendo. É foda, mas não incompreensível.

Pra tentar mitigar mais o problema, se eu fosse da equipe de engenharia da Intel, entraria PESADO no desenvolvimento do DXVK. É o que pode diminuir esse gargalo.