Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (TÓPICO OFICIAL)

[Iron_Sword]

Escrevi quase ao mesmo tempo que você.

Leia meu texto e me diz se o seu texto me faz gostar mais ou menos da Disney no comando?

Sei lá, parece que eles literalmente escolheram as pessoas que menos conheciam da trama e do circulo emocional ao redor dela, para escreverem.

Como eu disse, todo mundo quer um final feliz para o herói. E foi o que tivemos em O Retorno dos Jedi, um final feliz. Aí esses retardados não quiseram começar dali (não falo de começarem no fim do filme, falo de pegarem o final feliz) e detruíram tudo pra... Não colocar nada no lugar.

Sério, bastaria colocar que a República tá um brinco, Léia e Luke até hoje são ovacionados, a galáxia é um lugar melhor graças aos que se sacrificaram pela volta da democracia e... em cima disso mostrar que a Primeira Ordem veio para acabar com tudo... Só isso já daria totalmente outro rumo pra trilogia.

Pois é, como vc disse no post anterior, virou tudoi decadência, SW virou algo pequeno, cinza, os heróis não existem mais, falharam, tudo o que eles construíram cai facilmente, e os novos heróis foram desperdiçados, inclusive o Poe "aprende" no ep 8 que ser um herói e salvar geral como ele fez destruindo aquele dreadnaught é errado...

Fazer isso que você falou com a primeira ordem tendo que enfrentar uma nova república funcional daria muito trabalho, é mais fácil pros diretores e pro story group simplesmente requentar a fórmula da trilogia original, o problema é que nem isso conseguiram fazer direito hauhauahauahuaha

E tipo, quando eles falaram que fariam uma história nova, deixando de lado o universo expandido antigo eu até entendi, era muita coisa pra explicar até chegarem na era dos novos protagonistas, o problema é que não explicaram nada no canon novo tbm hauahuahaua, foi tudo nas coxas. Já que fizeram assim de não explicar direito o que aconteceu entre o ep 6 e o 7 daria fácil pra adaptar a saga Legacy of the Force sem precisar contar o que veio antes, era só fazer os ep 7 a 9 mostrando a história de Darth Caedus vs the Sword of the Jedi, só fazer algumas adaptações, mas ainda sim contaria com os heróis antigos e com os novos, com uma portagonista mulher e com 2 Skywalkers como personagens centrais... Personagens com mais carisma e apoio da fan base do que o elenco todo junto dos novos filmes.

 

[Goris]

Pois é, como vc disse no post anterior, virou tudoi decadência, SW virou algo pequeno, cinza, os heróis não existem mais, falharam, tudo o que eles construíram cai facilmente, e os novos heróis foram desperdiçados, inclusive o Poe "aprende" no ep 8 que ser um herói e salvar geral como ele fez destruindo aquele dreadnaught é errado...

Fazer isso que você falou com a primeira ordem tendo que enfrentar uma nova república funcional daria muito trabalho, é mais fácil pros diretores e pro story group simplesmente requentar a fórmula da trilogia original, o problema é que nem isso conseguiram fazer direito hauhauahauahuaha

E tipo, quando eles falaram que fariam uma história nova, deixando de lado o universo expandido antigo eu até entendi, era muita coisa pra explicar até chegarem na era dos novos protagonistas, o problema é que não explicaram nada no canon novo tbm hauahuahaua, foi tudo nas coxas. Já que fizeram assim de não explicar direito o que aconteceu entre o ep 6 e o 7 daria fácil pra adaptar a saga Legacy of the Force sem precisar contar o que veio antes, era só fazer os ep 7 a 9 mostrando a história de Darth Caedus vs the Sword of the Jedi, só fazer algumas adaptações, mas ainda sim contaria com os heróis antigos e com os novos, com uma portagonista mulher e com 2 Skywalkers como personagens centrais... Personagens com mais carisma e apoio da fan base do que o elenco todo junto dos novos filmes.

Nessas horas dá uma vontade tão grande de ter superpoderes, ir pro passado e demitir a Kathleen Kennedy antes dela mandar embora o pessoal velho e contratar todo aquele bando de estagiários empoderados e fazer eu mesmo o roteiro.

Sei que roteiro eu não sei fazer mas sem pensar muito eu conseguiria criar umas dez histórias melhores que a Disney. Nos anos 00 eu cheguei a ler fanfics (antes de ter acesso aos livros) e algumas delas podiam até ser mal escritas, mas tinham um potencial tão grande.... Amadores melhores que os profissionais....

 

[Bloodstained]

Lembram do cara que estava re-editando The Last Jedi? Pois bem, o nome dele é Ivan Ortega e, há duas semanas atrás, ele colocou o teaser-trailer do filme em seu canal:

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E parece que agora, falta pouco para o filme ser lançado:

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Se esse cara tiver conseguido salvar The Last Jedi, vai ser praticamente um milagre. Estou pensando se devo conceder o benefício da dúvida e assistir, a despeito das diversas memórias terrivelmente ruins que possuo a respeito dessa bagaça.

 

[Iron_Sword]

Nessas horas dá uma vontade tão grande de ter superpoderes, ir pro passado e demitir a Kathleen Kennedy antes dela mandar embora o pessoal velho e contratar todo aquele bando de estagiários empoderados e fazer eu mesmo o roteiro.

Sei que roteiro eu não sei fazer mas sem pensar muito eu conseguiria criar umas dez histórias melhores que a Disney. Nos anos 00 eu cheguei a ler fanfics (antes de ter acesso aos livros) e algumas delas podiam até ser mal escritas, mas tinham um potencial tão grande.... Amadores melhores que os profissionais....

As vezes o que falta pra alguém que escreve bem é o famoso QI, o "quem indica", alguns não são bons mas tem contatos e fazem lixos como o ep 8, outros são bons mas não tem contatos e ficam desconhecidos.
E falando em fanfics, nesse caso ruins, lembro um tempo atrás o Boofire 191, que tem um canal no YT, ele decidiu ler um conto erótico envolvendo Rey e Kylo, leu de zoeira mesmo, o conto era nivel aqueles contos eróticos do Marcelinho (canal br de YT que lia esse tipo de conto zoando), eu sei que eu ri de tão zoado que foi huahauahuhauha

Lembram do cara que estava re-editando The Last Jedi? Pois bem, o nome dele é Ivan Ortega e, há duas semanas atrás, ele colocou o teaser-trailer do filme em seu canal:

​

E parece que agora, falta pouco para o filme ser lançado:

​

Se esse cara tiver conseguido salvar The Last Jedi, vai ser praticamente um milagre. Estou pensando se devo conceder o benefício da dúvida e assistir, a despeito das diversas memórias terrivelmente ruins que possuo a respeito dessa bagaça.

Deviam é parar de tentar fazer o trabalho da Lucasfilm de graça, for que não tem como arrumar não, o nivel de quebra é no canon já.

 

[AxelJoestar]

Não sei se já postaram :


Tem spoilers do guerra infinita pra quem não vi ainda.

 

[Bloodstained]

E lá vamos nós para mais um episódio de Damage Control... Os caras simplesmente não desistem, na moral.


S04E24 - Não ouçam o maior executivo da Disney! Continuem produzindo Star Wars sem parar e fodam-se as consequências!


Why Star Wars Doesn't Need To Slow Down

Disney CEO Bob Iger recently gave a revealing interview in which he talked about everything from the situation regarding James Gunn and Marvel Studios to booze at Disneyland. However, the big boss' most revealing and interesting comment came when he essentially fell on his sword and took the blame for Star Wars becoming too big too fast, and promised a slow down in regards to the franchise. While it's far from surprising to see this kind of reaction, it's the wrong one. Star Wars does need to smarten up, but it doesn't need to slow down.

The catalyst for this decision appears to be the fact that Solo: A Star Wars Story did not perform to the expectations of Disney and Lucasfilm. This despite the fact that Solo is one of the highest grossing movies of the year.

The issue isn't that Solo performed badly, it's that the expectations put on Solo: A Star Wars Story were too high. Star Wars came back in December of 2015 with Star Wars: The Force Awakens and in the three and a half years that the franchise has been active, we've seen four films. For comparison, the Marvel Cinematic Universe released its first five films in barely over three years. The first two films in the franchise, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, came out barely over a month apart. Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger came out during the same summer in 2011.

Three of those first five movies saw a smaller domestic box office, even when adjusted for inflation, than Solo. These movies weren't flops. They were, however, films with smaller budgets than Solo. Part of Solo's exceptionally high budget was due to the behind-the-scenes issues and needing to bring in a new director to handle a much longer than budgeted production. Some if it was the fact that it was a Star Wars movie, and thus the movie is full of an immense amount of both practical and digital effects.

Solo was a movie that had issues, that's to be sure, and while a delay in release might have helped the movie be better, that would have only increased the budget that much more. The issue wasn't that Solo came out six months after Star Wars; The Last Jedi or that it was the fourth movie in less than four years. It was that the movie simply had problems that were next to impossible to overcome.

It's also the case that a Han Solo movie simply was never going to be as "big" as the other Star Wars movies we've seen. It was never going to make The Last Jedi money. That's ok, as long as Disney accepts that it's OK. Ant-Man and the Wasp made a lot less than Avengers: Infinity War. Nobody is telling the MCU to slow down.

Star Wars has been a franchise that has become special in the eyes of many and part of that is due to its rareity. Before 2015 we got two trilogies that came more than two decades apart. Solo: A Star Wars Story was a unique film for Star Wars in many ways, but one of the biggest was it was the first "fourth movie" we ever got from the franchise. When Star Wars: Episode IX comes out next year, we will have nearly doubled the number of Star Wars movies that exist in the world in half a decade.

This, too, is perfectly fine. Star Wars doesn't need to be special. It can just be good. Marvel Studios has shown that making multiple movies that are both "good" and "successful" is possible. There's no reason that Star Wars can't follow suit. But if Lucasfilm thinks every one of them is going to make a billion dollars, then there really will be a problem. If Solo had come out in 2015, it probably would have made insane amounts of money simply by being the first Star Wars movies in years. People are getting used to having Star Wars movies around now. These movies can still be "events," but they can either be "once in a lifetime" level events or they can be "blockbuster tentpole" events. They can't be both.

And I'm fine with them just being blockbuster movies. I love Star Wars, I always have. I don't have a problem with more of it. I want more of it. The movies may cease to feel like the unique things they once were, but they can still be good. They can still be great even. We can get a decade of Marvel movies and still be blown away by Avengers: Infinity War. I want a decade of Star Wars movies and then I want to see what somebody can do then that blows me away.

If Lucasfilm wants every Star Wars movie to be an epic cinema "event," then it needs to slow down. It needs to stop making them entirely and give audiences a break. However, if the goal is to make good movies that make money, that can be done without slowing down... at least not slowing down much. Lucasfilm may need to slow down and figure out exactly how they want to bring the galaxy, far, far away to the screen, but once they do they can hit there ground running and make as many of these movies as the studio wants to make. It's not about the speed, it's about the direction.


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[SithLord]

E lá vamos nós para mais um episódio de Damage Control... Os caras simplesmente não desistem, na moral.


S04E24 - Não ouçam o maior executivo da Disney! Continuem produzindo Star Wars sem parar e fodam-se as consequências!


Why Star Wars Doesn't Need To Slow Down

Disney CEO Bob Iger recently gave a revealing interview in which he talked about everything from the situation regarding James Gunn and Marvel Studios to booze at Disneyland. However, the big boss' most revealing and interesting comment came when he essentially fell on his sword and took the blame for Star Wars becoming too big too fast, and promised a slow down in regards to the franchise. While it's far from surprising to see this kind of reaction, it's the wrong one. Star Wars does need to smarten up, but it doesn't need to slow down.

The catalyst for this decision appears to be the fact that Solo: A Star Wars Story did not perform to the expectations of Disney and Lucasfilm. This despite the fact that Solo is one of the highest grossing movies of the year.

The issue isn't that Solo performed badly, it's that the expectations put on Solo: A Star Wars Story were too high. Star Wars came back in December of 2015 with Star Wars: The Force Awakens and in the three and a half years that the franchise has been active, we've seen four films. For comparison, the Marvel Cinematic Universe released its first five films in barely over three years. The first two films in the franchise, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, came out barely over a month apart. Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger came out during the same summer in 2011.

Three of those first five movies saw a smaller domestic box office, even when adjusted for inflation, than Solo. These movies weren't flops. They were, however, films with smaller budgets than Solo. Part of Solo's exceptionally high budget was due to the behind-the-scenes issues and needing to bring in a new director to handle a much longer than budgeted production. Some if it was the fact that it was a Star Wars movie, and thus the movie is full of an immense amount of both practical and digital effects.

Solo was a movie that had issues, that's to be sure, and while a delay in release might have helped the movie be better, that would have only increased the budget that much more. The issue wasn't that Solo came out six months after Star Wars; The Last Jedi or that it was the fourth movie in less than four years. It was that the movie simply had problems that were next to impossible to overcome.

It's also the case that a Han Solo movie simply was never going to be as "big" as the other Star Wars movies we've seen. It was never going to make The Last Jedi money. That's ok, as long as Disney accepts that it's OK. Ant-Man and the Wasp made a lot less than Avengers: Infinity War. Nobody is telling the MCU to slow down.

Star Wars has been a franchise that has become special in the eyes of many and part of that is due to its rareity. Before 2015 we got two trilogies that came more than two decades apart. Solo: A Star Wars Story was a unique film for Star Wars in many ways, but one of the biggest was it was the first "fourth movie" we ever got from the franchise. When Star Wars: Episode IX comes out next year, we will have nearly doubled the number of Star Wars movies that exist in the world in half a decade.

This, too, is perfectly fine. Star Wars doesn't need to be special. It can just be good. Marvel Studios has shown that making multiple movies that are both "good" and "successful" is possible. There's no reason that Star Wars can't follow suit. But if Lucasfilm thinks every one of them is going to make a billion dollars, then there really will be a problem. If Solo had come out in 2015, it probably would have made insane amounts of money simply by being the first Star Wars movies in years. People are getting used to having Star Wars movies around now. These movies can still be "events," but they can either be "once in a lifetime" level events or they can be "blockbuster tentpole" events. They can't be both.

And I'm fine with them just being blockbuster movies. I love Star Wars, I always have. I don't have a problem with more of it. I want more of it. The movies may cease to feel like the unique things they once were, but they can still be good. They can still be great even. We can get a decade of Marvel movies and still be blown away by Avengers: Infinity War. I want a decade of Star Wars movies and then I want to see what somebody can do then that blows me away.

If Lucasfilm wants every Star Wars movie to be an epic cinema "event," then it needs to slow down. It needs to stop making them entirely and give audiences a break. However, if the goal is to make good movies that make money, that can be done without slowing down... at least not slowing down much. Lucasfilm may need to slow down and figure out exactly how they want to bring the galaxy, far, far away to the screen, but once they do they can hit there ground running and make as many of these movies as the studio wants to make. It's not about the speed, it's about the direction.


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Podem produzir quantos "épicos" quiserem.

Minha grana não verão mais em QUALQUER tipo de mídia quando se tratar de SW.

Meu ranço, pela primeira vez, ultrapassou um tipo de mídia especifico e se alastrou pra tudo que é tipo de item de mídia ou entretenimento.

Parabéns a K.K. e esses diretores de m****.

Sent from Korriban, via Imperial Freighter.

 

[Iron_Sword]

E lá vamos nós para mais um episódio de Damage Control... Os caras simplesmente não desistem, na moral.


S04E24 - Não ouçam o maior executivo da Disney! Continuem produzindo Star Wars sem parar e fodam-se as consequências!


Why Star Wars Doesn't Need To Slow Down

Disney CEO Bob Iger recently gave a revealing interview in which he talked about everything from the situation regarding James Gunn and Marvel Studios to booze at Disneyland. However, the big boss' most revealing and interesting comment came when he essentially fell on his sword and took the blame for Star Wars becoming too big too fast, and promised a slow down in regards to the franchise. While it's far from surprising to see this kind of reaction, it's the wrong one. Star Wars does need to smarten up, but it doesn't need to slow down.

The catalyst for this decision appears to be the fact that Solo: A Star Wars Story did not perform to the expectations of Disney and Lucasfilm. This despite the fact that Solo is one of the highest grossing movies of the year.

The issue isn't that Solo performed badly, it's that the expectations put on Solo: A Star Wars Story were too high. Star Wars came back in December of 2015 with Star Wars: The Force Awakens and in the three and a half years that the franchise has been active, we've seen four films. For comparison, the Marvel Cinematic Universe released its first five films in barely over three years. The first two films in the franchise, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, came out barely over a month apart. Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger came out during the same summer in 2011.

Three of those first five movies saw a smaller domestic box office, even when adjusted for inflation, than Solo. These movies weren't flops. They were, however, films with smaller budgets than Solo. Part of Solo's exceptionally high budget was due to the behind-the-scenes issues and needing to bring in a new director to handle a much longer than budgeted production. Some if it was the fact that it was a Star Wars movie, and thus the movie is full of an immense amount of both practical and digital effects.

Solo was a movie that had issues, that's to be sure, and while a delay in release might have helped the movie be better, that would have only increased the budget that much more. The issue wasn't that Solo came out six months after Star Wars; The Last Jedi or that it was the fourth movie in less than four years. It was that the movie simply had problems that were next to impossible to overcome.

It's also the case that a Han Solo movie simply was never going to be as "big" as the other Star Wars movies we've seen. It was never going to make The Last Jedi money. That's ok, as long as Disney accepts that it's OK. Ant-Man and the Wasp made a lot less than Avengers: Infinity War. Nobody is telling the MCU to slow down.

Star Wars has been a franchise that has become special in the eyes of many and part of that is due to its rareity. Before 2015 we got two trilogies that came more than two decades apart. Solo: A Star Wars Story was a unique film for Star Wars in many ways, but one of the biggest was it was the first "fourth movie" we ever got from the franchise. When Star Wars: Episode IX comes out next year, we will have nearly doubled the number of Star Wars movies that exist in the world in half a decade.

This, too, is perfectly fine. Star Wars doesn't need to be special. It can just be good. Marvel Studios has shown that making multiple movies that are both "good" and "successful" is possible. There's no reason that Star Wars can't follow suit. But if Lucasfilm thinks every one of them is going to make a billion dollars, then there really will be a problem. If Solo had come out in 2015, it probably would have made insane amounts of money simply by being the first Star Wars movies in years. People are getting used to having Star Wars movies around now. These movies can still be "events," but they can either be "once in a lifetime" level events or they can be "blockbuster tentpole" events. They can't be both.

And I'm fine with them just being blockbuster movies. I love Star Wars, I always have. I don't have a problem with more of it. I want more of it. The movies may cease to feel like the unique things they once were, but they can still be good. They can still be great even. We can get a decade of Marvel movies and still be blown away by Avengers: Infinity War. I want a decade of Star Wars movies and then I want to see what somebody can do then that blows me away.

If Lucasfilm wants every Star Wars movie to be an epic cinema "event," then it needs to slow down. It needs to stop making them entirely and give audiences a break. However, if the goal is to make good movies that make money, that can be done without slowing down... at least not slowing down much. Lucasfilm may need to slow down and figure out exactly how they want to bring the galaxy, far, far away to the screen, but once they do they can hit there ground running and make as many of these movies as the studio wants to make. It's not about the speed, it's about the direction.


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Quanta m**** hauhauahauhauahauahuaha

"Solo é um dos filmes de maior bilheteria do ano" pra uma empresa que está acostumada com 700KK+ até pra animações, 400KK pra um filme de SW não passa de lixo. Ainda mais pelo fato de que nem se pagou... Desastre completo, fora o fato de que o cara nem se toca que o mercado de SW vai além dos filmes, a venda de bugigangas caiu, então a Disney tem que dar uma repensada em como frear isso tbm...
E o autor tentando justificar utilizando o primeiro Thor e o primeiro Capitão América como parâmetros pqp
Fora que ele não decide se é melhor ser um evento épico, se é melhor só ser um filme ok, se é melhor ser filme bom, se é melhor fazer 1KKK, se é melhor dar prejuízo...

 

[Goris]

O cara não fala nem um momento em mudar roteiro, mudar enfoque, mudar nada. Ele só diz que não deve mudar o time que tá ganhando, sendo que não está ganhando...

Star Wars - Rogue One foi um filme que ninguém pediu. A equipe que roubou os planos da Estrela da Morte? Quem quer assistir essa m****? Eu mesmo torço o nariz.

Não foi um filme épico, nem todo mundo curtiu, mas foi um filme bom (eu admito que estava errado, até curti o filme, achei bem decente) e arrecadou 1 bilhão.

Veio The Last Jedi, a Disney só faltou chamar de nazista quem dissesse que não achou tão bom o filme.

Logo sai Solo, outro filme pelo qual ninguém pediu, mas que tinha um dos personagens favoritos de muitos fãs da franquia (não é meu caso, sou time Luke)...

Quais as chances dele ter bilheteria pior que Rogue One, que além de ninguém conhecer a trama, ela era desnecessária?

Bom, um TLJ depois, as chances mostraram que foi o maior Flop da franquia.

Qualquer um que queira que a mesma continue, tem que aceitar que o filme cagou tudo, que a reação da Disney e dos fãs que gostaram (lembra que eu disse que só faltou a Disney chamar de nazista? Os fãs "do bem" chamaram) só ferrou ainda mais e gerou casos como o de nosso amigo que disse que não vai comprar mais nada da franquia...

Querer continuar como está sem propor mudanças é apenas Damage Control mesmo. Ou fanboyismo além de qualquer juízo.

Como fanboy eu mesmo, prefiro achar que é o primeiro.

 

[Nicko]

Esse filme do Solo...não deu vontade nem de baixar...sério...vo passar ele.

 

[Goris]

Star Wars: Episode IX Leak Says J.J. Abrams Will Retcon Rey’s Parents

Nos odiamos os fãs direitistas, não vamos mudar nada na direção que Rian Johnson escolheu porque somos lacradores.

Mas queremos o dinheiro dos fãs que odiamos, vamos fazer tudo que achamos que vai atraí-los menos pedir desculpas por os chamar de nazistas.

Já começaram a soltar que vão fazer coisas para agradar aos fãs, daqui seis meses - anotem e me cobrem se eu estiver errado - vão estar implorando dizendo que o filme vai ter tudo que os fãs queriam.

Continuo torcendo pela fãs darem um f**a-se colossal pro filme.

 

[Deleted member 219486]

Star Wars: Episode IX Leak Says J.J. Abrams Will Retcon Rey’s Parents

Nos odiamos os fãs direitistas, não vamos mudar nada na direção que Rian Johnson escolheu porque somos lacradores.

Mas queremos o dinheiro dos fãs que odiamos, vamos fazer tudo que achamos que vai atraí-los menos pedir desculpas por os chamar de nazistas.

Já começaram a soltar que vão fazer coisas para agradar aos fãs, daqui seis meses - anotem e me cobrem se eu estiver errado - vão estar implorando dizendo que o filme vai ter tudo que os fãs queriam.

Continuo torcendo pela fãs darem um f**a-se colossal pro filme.

Essa turma parece que não tem emoção, sentimentos e às vezes colocam merdas no roteiro.
Queria entender o que altera a percepção deles.

 

[Bloodstained]

'Star Wars' Chief Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm Deal Extended for Three Years
After the box office disappointment of 'Solo: A Star Wars Story,' the studio plans to expand the universe with new characters introduced in movies and television shows

Kathleen Kennedy has reignited her lightsaber. The lead producer and architect of the Star Wars franchise has renewed her contract to remain president of Lucasfilm for another three years, through 2021, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

The move is a vote of confidence in Kennedy, who took command of Lucasfilm after Disney’s $4 billion acquisition from George Lucas in 2012 and has overseen the relaunch of Star Wars, one of the most revered movie properties in cinematic history. Disney's four new Star Wars films have grossed almost $4.5 billion at the worldwide box office. Ancillary and merchandising have brought billions more into the studio's coffers.

But it hasn’t always been easy money. Kennedy has had to replace directors on two movies that were either in production or post-. Chris Lord and Phil Miller were fired from Solo: A Star Wars Story on June 20, 2017, less than a year before the film's release. Kennedy also effectively replaced Rogue One: A Star Wars Story director Gareth Edwards with helmer Tony Gilroy, though Edwards kept his directing credit. Last year, Colin Trevorrow, who was to have directed Star Wars: Episode IX, was fired and replaced with the series' Episode VII helmer, J.J. Abrams, a week later.

Kennedy’s position is one of the most visible, and her actions the most highly scrutinized, in Hollywood due to the immense popularity of Lucasfilm’s franchises, which also include Indiana Jones. So it's notable that her renewal follows this summer's Solo: A Star Wars Story, the first big-screen box office disappointment for the franchise, grossing "only" $392 million worldwide and leading analysts to estimate a loss for the film at $50 million to $80 million or more. (In contrast, 2017's The Last Jedi and 2016's Rogue One grossed $1 billion globally, and 2015's The Force Awakens topped $2 billion in receipts.)

Kennedy's deal extension also follows a polarizing reaction to Last Jedi — which sits at 91 percent fresh on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes but was flooded with unusually angry fan complaints on social media about key plot choices. The reaction to Last Jedi and Solo is resulting in a shift in studio strategy, with Disney making plans to slow the output of movies. "You can expect some slowdown," Disney CEO Bob Iger told THR in an interview published on Sept. 20, adding, "but that doesn't mean we're not going to make films."

The only Star Wars film currently underway is Episode IX, currently shooting in London, and due for release Dec. 20, 2019. Sources tell THR that Episode IX will be the last of the "chapter" installments, with Disney planning on touting it as a selling point in the promotion campaign for the film in the year leading up to its release. Lucasfilm is developing feature projects from Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, as well as a potential trilogy from Rian Johnson, the filmmaker behind Last Jedi. Johnson, however, is currently prepping to shoot a detective thriller that is to star Daniel Craig.

Sources say that the near future of Star Wars lies in television with Kennedy-led Lucasfilm planning on expanding the universe with new characters in that medium. The shows at this stage include a live-action series run by Jon Favreau (which is currently casting) and the animated Star Wars: The Clone Wars, both of which will air on Disney’s untitled streaming service, which is set to launch in the second half of 2019. Meanwhile, another animated series, Star Wars Resistance, premieres this month on The Disney Channel.

Lucasfilm is also developing a new Indiana Jones movie, the fifth in a series starring Harrison Ford and directed by Spielberg, but that project recently saw its release date push from July 10, 2020, to July 9, 2021. Script issues were the cause. The last Jones movie, 2008's The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, grossed $786 million worldwide, adjusted for inflation.

Kennedy got her first breaks working as an assistant to writer John Milius and then Steven Spielberg, becoming a co-founder of Amblin Entertainment. She has established one of the most enviable producing careers in Hollywood, with credits on classic blockbusters like E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Back to the Future and Jurassic Parkas well as critically acclaimed Spielberg dramas like Schindler's List, Munich, War Horse and Lincoln.

In September, she was named as a recipient, along with husband, producer Frank Marshall, of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' Irving G. Thalberg Award for a "body of work reflect a consistently high quality of motion picture production.” She will receive the honor at the 10th annual Governors Awards on Nov. 18.


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Se for mesmo verdade, a Disney não se importa com o que os fãs de Star Wars dizem. Se for mesmo verdade, chegou a hora dos fãs fazerem o funeral da franquia e mandarem um sonoro f**a-se para a Disney.

 

[Nego_Brown___]

Boa noite e Boa sorte.

 

[Devon_]

'Star Wars' Chief Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm Deal Extended for Three Years
After the box office disappointment of 'Solo: A Star Wars Story,' the studio plans to expand the universe with new characters introduced in movies and television shows

Kathleen Kennedy has reignited her lightsaber. The lead producer and architect of the Star Wars franchise has renewed her contract to remain president of Lucasfilm for another three years, through 2021, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

The move is a vote of confidence in Kennedy, who took command of Lucasfilm after Disney’s $4 billion acquisition from George Lucas in 2012 and has overseen the relaunch of Star Wars, one of the most revered movie properties in cinematic history. Disney's four new Star Wars films have grossed almost $4.5 billion at the worldwide box office. Ancillary and merchandising have brought billions more into the studio's coffers.

But it hasn’t always been easy money. Kennedy has had to replace directors on two movies that were either in production or post-. Chris Lord and Phil Miller were fired from Solo: A Star Wars Story on June 20, 2017, less than a year before the film's release. Kennedy also effectively replaced Rogue One: A Star Wars Story director Gareth Edwards with helmer Tony Gilroy, though Edwards kept his directing credit. Last year, Colin Trevorrow, who was to have directed Star Wars: Episode IX, was fired and replaced with the series' Episode VII helmer, J.J. Abrams, a week later.

Kennedy’s position is one of the most visible, and her actions the most highly scrutinized, in Hollywood due to the immense popularity of Lucasfilm’s franchises, which also include Indiana Jones. So it's notable that her renewal follows this summer's Solo: A Star Wars Story, the first big-screen box office disappointment for the franchise, grossing "only" $392 million worldwide and leading analysts to estimate a loss for the film at $50 million to $80 million or more. (In contrast, 2017's The Last Jedi and 2016's Rogue One grossed $1 billion globally, and 2015's The Force Awakens topped $2 billion in receipts.)

Kennedy's deal extension also follows a polarizing reaction to Last Jedi — which sits at 91 percent fresh on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes but was flooded with unusually angry fan complaints on social media about key plot choices. The reaction to Last Jedi and Solo is resulting in a shift in studio strategy, with Disney making plans to slow the output of movies. "You can expect some slowdown," Disney CEO Bob Iger told THR in an interview published on Sept. 20, adding, "but that doesn't mean we're not going to make films."

The only Star Wars film currently underway is Episode IX, currently shooting in London, and due for release Dec. 20, 2019. Sources tell THR that Episode IX will be the last of the "chapter" installments, with Disney planning on touting it as a selling point in the promotion campaign for the film in the year leading up to its release. Lucasfilm is developing feature projects from Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, as well as a potential trilogy from Rian Johnson, the filmmaker behind Last Jedi. Johnson, however, is currently prepping to shoot a detective thriller that is to star Daniel Craig.

Sources say that the near future of Star Wars lies in television with Kennedy-led Lucasfilm planning on expanding the universe with new characters in that medium. The shows at this stage include a live-action series run by Jon Favreau (which is currently casting) and the animated Star Wars: The Clone Wars, both of which will air on Disney’s untitled streaming service, which is set to launch in the second half of 2019. Meanwhile, another animated series, Star Wars Resistance, premieres this month on The Disney Channel.

Lucasfilm is also developing a new Indiana Jones movie, the fifth in a series starring Harrison Ford and directed by Spielberg, but that project recently saw its release date push from July 10, 2020, to July 9, 2021. Script issues were the cause. The last Jones movie, 2008's The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, grossed $786 million worldwide, adjusted for inflation.

Kennedy got her first breaks working as an assistant to writer John Milius and then Steven Spielberg, becoming a co-founder of Amblin Entertainment. She has established one of the most enviable producing careers in Hollywood, with credits on classic blockbusters like E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Back to the Future and Jurassic Parkas well as critically acclaimed Spielberg dramas like Schindler's List, Munich, War Horse and Lincoln.

In September, she was named as a recipient, along with husband, producer Frank Marshall, of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' Irving G. Thalberg Award for a "body of work reflect a consistently high quality of motion picture production.” She will receive the honor at the 10th annual Governors Awards on Nov. 18.


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Se for mesmo verdade, a Disney não se importa com o que os fãs de Star Wars dizem. Se for mesmo verdade, chegou a hora dos fãs fazerem o funeral da franquia e mandarem um sonoro f**a-se para a Disney.

Enviado de meu SM-A910F usando o Tapatalk

 

[Goris]

Essa me pegou de surpresa.

Achei que a Disney ia esperar o resultado de Dlack Diamond / TrIXxie antes de bater o martelo.

Bom, minhas esperanças estão agora com os fãs, que eles não sejam botches da KK.

 

[AxelJoestar]

Sábias palavras , Kath. 2:39

 

[Havokdan]

Star Wars: Russian Bots May Have Derailed The Last Jedi
7 hours agoby Sam Stonein Movie NewsComment
When Star Wars: The Last Jedi was first released this past December, audience reaction over Episode VIII was divided, especially with online criticism running rampant and driving several cast members off of various social media accounts in the face of constant harassment. A new academic study this may have been part of a coordinated effort by Russian online bots to sow division and strife in American society by targeting pop culture.
Researcher Morten Bay in his study Weaponizing The Haters: The Last Jedi and the strategic politicization of pop culture through social media manipulation, examined the online reaction to the Star Wars film. In his studies, Bay discovered that approximately 50.9% percent of negative response on Twitter to movie was from non-automated accounts while only 21.9% was from verified human accounts.
RELATED: Last Jedi’s Domhnall Gleeson Calls Kelly Marie Tran’s Harassers ‘Morons’
“The likely objective of these measures is increasing media coverage of the fandom conflict, thereby adding to and further propagating a narrative of widespread discord and dysfunction in American society,” theorized Bay about his findings. “A number of these users appear to be Russian trolls.”
The study certainly explains the heightened amount of online vitriol directed towards the film and its cast and has come to filmmaker Rian Johnson’s attention as well.
RELATED: Marvel’s Last Jedi Adaptation Reveals Luke Skywalker’s Final Words

A bit of Morten’s research came out awhile ago and made some headlines – here’s his full paper. Looking forward to reading it, but what the top-line describes is consistent with my experience online. https://t.co/MTRgmPxGgZ
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) October 1, 2018​

(via The Hollywood Reporter)

Fonte: https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-russian-bots-derailed-last-jedi/

Sabia, foram os Russos!

 

[Bloodstained]

Fonte: https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-russian-bots-derailed-last-jedi/

Sabia, foram os Russos!

​

Custo a acreditar que ainda estão usando esse argumento... Isso é coisa lá da primeira temporada de Damage Control. Pensei que já tinham superado.

 

[Iron_Sword]

​

Custo a acreditar que ainda estão usando esse argumento... Isso é coisa lá da primeira temporada de Damage Control. Pensei que já tinham superado.

O que eu tenho pena é que os bots fazem trabalho escravo, eles nem são pagos, deveriam virar críticos, assim receberiam brindes e informações exclusivas só por puxar o saco de uma mega corporação...

Quanto a notícia da outra lá continuando como presidente da empresa, "good, good" quero é que se afundem mais

Continuo lendo os livros do antigo UE e pronto, uma das vatangens e ler cenas com o Pellaeon fuderoso, um dos oficiais imperiais mais antigos, na ativa desde antes das guerras clônicas, o oficial imperial que organizou a retirada da frota imperial na batalha de Endor depois da destruição da estrela da morte e do Executor, o segundo em comando durante a era Thrawn, e que é considerado ums dos militares mais competentes e atual lider da frota imperial, quase 80 anos nas costas e mesmo se recuperado de um ferimento grave que quase o matou, ainda sim, de dentro de um taque de bacta, dá esporro em Moff folgado:

The answer never came. The comm on Flennic's desk buzzed and the Moff vented his anger on it.
"I told you, no interruptions!" he bellowed into the comm unit.
"But, sir, there's an incoming call from-"
"I don't care who it's from, you fool. Get rid of them now, or so help me I'll have you ejected into space without-"
He stopped short when another voice issued from the comm unit.
"That's hardly the way to speak to a subordinate officer," the voice said. "Especially when you're on my ship."
Flennic's features went from startlingly purple to deathly white in the time it would have taken light to cross the room.
"Grand Admiral?" he said unbelievingly. "You're-alive?"
"Of course I'm alive," Pellaeon said, his voice oddly muffled but clear. "It will take more than a bunch of overeager Yuuzhan Vong to put me out of the picture."
"But-"
"What's the matter, Kurlen? You don't sound as overjoyed to hear my voice as I'd thought you might."
"No, that's not it at all. It's just-that is, I'm-" The man stammered awkwardly for a moment, then straightened and returned his glare to Jacen. "How do I know this isn't one of your mind tricks, Jedi?"
It was Pellaeon who answered. "Just take a look at him, Kurlen. He's as surprised about this as you are."
That was true. The last thing Jacen had expected was assistance from the man he had last seen unconscious in a bacta tank, looking as though death was but a few short breaths away. It also confirmed something he had been wondering: that Pellaeon had access to more than just audio via his comlink, but was hiding his own visuals.
"It's nice to hear your voice, Grand Admiral Pellaeon," Jacen said with absolute honesty.
"Under better circumstances, Jacen Solo, I would say the same."
There was the hint of a smile in the man's voice. "Thank you for your help at Bastion. I owe the Jedi my life, and I never forget my debts. You can safely assume I shall listen to your thoughts on the Yuuzhan Vong with far more interest than some of my colleagues."
"It would be my pleasure to discuss them with you, sir," Jacen said, mindful to keep any conceit from his tone. Even though he would be dealing with Grand Admiral Pellaeon, he still didn't want to get on Flennic's bad side. The future was full of unseen waters; it was important to leave as many means of crossing those waters open to him as possible.
"Another time, perhaps," the Grand Admiral said. "I've been a little out of touch these past couple of days, and right now I have a strategic withdrawal to discuss with Moff Flennic."
"We were just discussing that very thing," the Moff said, licking his lips nervously.
"Were you, indeed?" Pellaeon asked. "And have you issued directives to the surviving officers?"
"Well, no, but-"
"Assessed possible locations for a more substantial regroup?"
"Borosk was one location that came to mind," Flennic said, shooting Jacen a warning look.
A good choice, Kurlen. I suggest you get onto it straight away. The longer we sit here, the more stupid we'll look when the next wave arrives. Capital ships should start moving within the hour, leaving a small defense force behind. I trust I can leave the arrangements in your hands? I have business elsewhere that needs attending."
"Uh, Grand Admiral-"
"Yes, Kurlen?"
"Don't you think this deserves a little more discussion?"
There was a long silence. Jacen maintained an expression of serene patience while Moff Flennic looked increasingly nervous.
When Pellaeon spoke again, it was in a voice with all the cold clarity of a hydrogen bath.
"Understand this, Kurlen: what I just gave you was an order, not an invitation. While I command the Imperial Navy, you will do as I say, regardless of whether or not you agree with those orders. Otherwise-and believe me when I say this-if I have to secede from the Empire in order to ensure this navy's survival, then I shall do so without hesitation-and I guarantee that we won't be back to pick up the pieces of your shipyards afterward."
"I understand, Grand Admiral," the Moff stammered. "Good," Pellaeon returned crisply. "But I'm not finished. This is just the beginning. You will also issue orders to allow Jade Shadow free access to this system, and any system within the Empire. The Moff Council has gravely underestimated the threat of the Yuuzhan Vong against my advice one too many times, and it won't happen again. I won't let it happen again. The time has come to take what few assets we have left and ensure that nothing like this ever recurs. If we survive Borosk, the Galactic Alliance and the Jedi will be our best hope of long-term survival, and I intend to take advantage of them while the Empire still exists. Is that understood?"
The large but temporarily cowed man just nodded.
"The connection must be poor, Kurlen, because I didn't quite catch what you said."
"I understand perfectly, Grand Admiral Pellaeon."
"Excellent. Now, send our young friend back to Widow-maker. I want to pick his brain about the Yuuzhan Vong while I still have the opportunity to do so."

Depois de algumas horas, ainda se recuperando, de dentro do tanque de bacta ele comanda a frota imperial pra chutar a bunda da frota Yuuzhan Vong que estava em território imperial, e quando o warmaster YV abre canal de comunicação pra falar m**** o Pellaeon responde em canal aberto pra frota toda ouvir, e humilha o warmaster:

Another whistle cut across the channel. "Broadcast from the enemy, sir," Captain Yage said.
"Put it over an open comm," Pellaeon said. "I want everyone to hear this. "
"I will but delay the inevitable," Vorrik was saying, spitting out the words with even more than his usual bile. "There will be no mercy. None of you will be spared. Your homes will be razed and your remains will be used as fertilizer for our crops! Your worlds will be absorbed into the glorious Yuuzhan Vong empire as it engulfs the galaxy whole. You will-"
"Maybe I'm missing something, Vorrik," Pellaeon interrupted. "But I'm not seeing any evidence of this great plan of yours. We're destroying your yammosks; we've killed your spies; we're taking back those you thought were captives. You don't have the muscle to take this planet, let alone the others. Your threats are as empty as your boasts are shallow."
"You will eat those words when..."
"Empty," Pellaeon repeated over the commander's renewed tirade.
"-we turn your abominations into slag and-"
"Empty!"
"-grind every trace of you into the dust from which you were born!"
"Empty, Vorrik!" Pellaeon bellowed. The Yuuzhan Vong commander emitted a sound like that of a womp rat being strangled, but he didn't give him the chance to speak. "It's time for you to make good on your promises, Commander: either destroy us or get out!"
"By the gods of my people, infidel, I promise that you will choke on those words!"
"Maybe one day, Vorrik," Pellaeon said, "but not today. You really should have thought twice about this gambit of yours-especially if you didn't have the resources to pull it off in the first place." In the heartbeat between words he lost all hint of mockery and adopted a cold and serious tone. "We have no intentions of surrendering-not now, not ever. You may win the occasional battle against us, Vorrik, but the Empire will always strike back. That I promise you."
Vorrik began another howl of abuse that Pellaeon ignored. "You tell Shimrra from me that if he wants to get the job done, then he's going to have to send a much bigger fleet-and a more competent commander to oversee it."
He killed the line before Vorrik had the opportunity to say anything further, then relaxed into the soothing embrace of the bacta tank's fluids. He was happy with his handling of the Yuuzhan Vong commander, even if provoking Vorrik was a calculated risk. But his words had been as much for those in his own navy as for Vorrik. If the Yuuzhan Vong commander did decide to defy his orders and stay, Pellaeon wanted to make sure he had the entire navy behind him.

Só essa frase já valeu o capítulo "but the Empire will always strike back. That I promise you."
Isso é um lider foda, ele não grita nem bate o pé no chão feito uma criança mimada, coisa que os novos "vilões" dos filmes fazem, ele é controlado e sabe o que está fazendo, e sabe se impor sem precisar fazer barulho demais...

Legal tbm que nessa batalha ele trabalhou junto com o Luke e outros jedi, ou seja o império está não só trabalhando com a NR, mas com o lider dos jedi, a esposa dele, o sobrinho dele e outras 3 jedi que fazem parte do grupo, e em nenhum momento o Pellaeon trata eles mal, na verdade é o oposto ele e o Luke e os outros jedi se respeitam bastante, uma das jedi que é healer salva a vida dele no começo. E tem até uma cena em que o Luke num das novas X-Wings está comandando um esquadrão de TIE-Fighters...

Mas claro, os problemas do ep 8 são só problemas por culpa dos bots russos, afinal, o filme é cheio de bons personagens e bom roteiro né? Pelo menos é o que diz o povo que escreve em certos sites que dependem de "vazamentos" dos grandes estúdios pra ter assunto.

 

[soltonatural]

'Star Wars' Chief Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm Deal Extended for Three Years
After the box office disappointment of 'Solo: A Star Wars Story,' the studio plans to expand the universe with new characters introduced in movies and television shows

Kathleen Kennedy has reignited her lightsaber. The lead producer and architect of the Star Wars franchise has renewed her contract to remain president of Lucasfilm for another three years, through 2021, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

The move is a vote of confidence in Kennedy, who took command of Lucasfilm after Disney’s $4 billion acquisition from George Lucas in 2012 and has overseen the relaunch of Star Wars, one of the most revered movie properties in cinematic history. Disney's four new Star Wars films have grossed almost $4.5 billion at the worldwide box office. Ancillary and merchandising have brought billions more into the studio's coffers.

But it hasn’t always been easy money. Kennedy has had to replace directors on two movies that were either in production or post-. Chris Lord and Phil Miller were fired from Solo: A Star Wars Story on June 20, 2017, less than a year before the film's release. Kennedy also effectively replaced Rogue One: A Star Wars Story director Gareth Edwards with helmer Tony Gilroy, though Edwards kept his directing credit. Last year, Colin Trevorrow, who was to have directed Star Wars: Episode IX, was fired and replaced with the series' Episode VII helmer, J.J. Abrams, a week later.

Kennedy’s position is one of the most visible, and her actions the most highly scrutinized, in Hollywood due to the immense popularity of Lucasfilm’s franchises, which also include Indiana Jones. So it's notable that her renewal follows this summer's Solo: A Star Wars Story, the first big-screen box office disappointment for the franchise, grossing "only" $392 million worldwide and leading analysts to estimate a loss for the film at $50 million to $80 million or more. (In contrast, 2017's The Last Jedi and 2016's Rogue One grossed $1 billion globally, and 2015's The Force Awakens topped $2 billion in receipts.)

Kennedy's deal extension also follows a polarizing reaction to Last Jedi — which sits at 91 percent fresh on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes but was flooded with unusually angry fan complaints on social media about key plot choices. The reaction to Last Jedi and Solo is resulting in a shift in studio strategy, with Disney making plans to slow the output of movies. "You can expect some slowdown," Disney CEO Bob Iger told THR in an interview published on Sept. 20, adding, "but that doesn't mean we're not going to make films."

The only Star Wars film currently underway is Episode IX, currently shooting in London, and due for release Dec. 20, 2019. Sources tell THR that Episode IX will be the last of the "chapter" installments, with Disney planning on touting it as a selling point in the promotion campaign for the film in the year leading up to its release. Lucasfilm is developing feature projects from Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, as well as a potential trilogy from Rian Johnson, the filmmaker behind Last Jedi. Johnson, however, is currently prepping to shoot a detective thriller that is to star Daniel Craig.

Sources say that the near future of Star Wars lies in television with Kennedy-led Lucasfilm planning on expanding the universe with new characters in that medium. The shows at this stage include a live-action series run by Jon Favreau (which is currently casting) and the animated Star Wars: The Clone Wars, both of which will air on Disney’s untitled streaming service, which is set to launch in the second half of 2019. Meanwhile, another animated series, Star Wars Resistance, premieres this month on The Disney Channel.

Lucasfilm is also developing a new Indiana Jones movie, the fifth in a series starring Harrison Ford and directed by Spielberg, but that project recently saw its release date push from July 10, 2020, to July 9, 2021. Script issues were the cause. The last Jones movie, 2008's The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, grossed $786 million worldwide, adjusted for inflation.

Kennedy got her first breaks working as an assistant to writer John Milius and then Steven Spielberg, becoming a co-founder of Amblin Entertainment. She has established one of the most enviable producing careers in Hollywood, with credits on classic blockbusters like E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Back to the Future and Jurassic Parkas well as critically acclaimed Spielberg dramas like Schindler's List, Munich, War Horse and Lincoln.

In September, she was named as a recipient, along with husband, producer Frank Marshall, of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' Irving G. Thalberg Award for a "body of work reflect a consistently high quality of motion picture production.” She will receive the honor at the 10th annual Governors Awards on Nov. 18.


Fonte
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Se for mesmo verdade, a Disney não se importa com o que os fãs de Star Wars dizem. Se for mesmo verdade, chegou a hora dos fãs fazerem o funeral da franquia e mandarem um sonoro f**a-se para a Disney.

Isso só prova que os esquerdistas tomaram conta da Disney/Lucasfilm.
Politicagem está acima de fãs e até do lucro. Star Wars virou ferramenta para fazer lavagem cerebral nas novas gerações.

 

[Bloodstained]

Obviamente iriam fazer um episódio de Damage Control relativo à renovação do contrato da megera. Toda notícia de Star Wars gera episódios agora.


S04E25 - Kathleen Kennedy é pura sucesso! A Disney agiu certo renovando seu contrato, porque #feminismo.


Disney Rehires Kathleen Kennedy After Acclaimed, Successful 'Star Wars' Movies

John Boyega, Kelly Marie Tran, and Daisy Ridley in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi '​

As reported by The Hollywood Reporter on Friday, Walt Disney has renewed the contract of one Kathleen Kennedy, meaning that the current head of Lucasfilm will remain the head of Lucasfilm for at least the next three years. In a rational world, this would be an expected development. Kennedy has produced four Star Wars movies for Walt Disney which have grossed a total of $4.85 billion worldwide on a combined production budget of around $1b. Generally speaking, when a producer’s first four films under a given contract earn an average of $1.2125b worldwide for the company, that producer gets to keep their job if they so choose.

Yet, there exists a notion that Star Wars is in peril or that the producer of E.T., Jurassic Park and The Sixth Sense is not fit to handle Lucasfilm. This is mostly thanks to the online harrumphs arguing that Kennedy has “ruined” Star Wars via The Last Jedi’s deconstructive mythology or schemes to populate Star Wars movies with non-white, female heroes. Part of this is due to an online news culture that will prop up any absurd argument as long as its clickbait, so we’re forced to discuss whether a theater chain holding a “no boys allowed” Wonder Woman screening is a civil rights violation.

But try to ignore the online mob, and I know that’s hard to do when our SEO-driven media automatically brings them to the forefront and inadvertently gives them a seat at the debate table. What we have is a revamped franchise that has shattered box office records and earned mostly positive reviews and viewer feedback. Even if you account for Solo (ironically the new Star Wars movie starring a white guy is the one that was ignored overseas), the franchise has been a best-case-scenario for any kind of IP recharge. Nothing else, not Jurassic World, not Mad Max: Fury Road and certainly not Terminator, can compare.

All four new Star Wars movies earned mostly positive reviews and A or A- Cinemascore grades. Unlike a number of online user polls, folks who participate in Cinemascore polling actually have to have seen the movie. The two episode movies have the second-biggest ($248 million) and third-biggest ($220m) opening weekends of all time behind only Avengers: Infinity War ($258 million). Rogue One: A Star Wars Story has the third-biggest December launch behind only the other two Star Wars flicks, a $155m debut that is 84% larger than The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ($84m in 2012). And all three of those flicks posted good-to-great multipliers.

The Last Jedi had a 2.8x multiplier for a $620 million domestic total. That’s actually a little low for a major Christmas release, but A) most December releases don’t open with $220m and B) it was still leggier than Avengers: Infinity War which earned $678m from a $258m debut. Rogue One pulled a “normal for a December biggie” 3.43x multiplier for a $532m cume, while The Force Awakens earned a whopping $937m from its $248m launch, a huge 3.77x multiplier. In unadjusted domestic grosses, the first three “new” Star Wars movies are the first, eighth and 11th-biggest earners of all time. Worldwide, they are third, 11th and 27th.

Now that’s not to say that Solo wasn’t an embarrassing miss, or that folks like me hadn’t spent the last four years making like John McLane frantically waving the fire torches in the air hoping to prevent the plane from crashing. But that film was actually an in-development project from before Disney bought Lucasfilm and was explicitly greenlit by Bob Iger. That’s a share-the-blame miss. Moreover, the optics alone of Disney firing a female producer after three straight female-led $1 billion+ grossers because the white male-centric spinoff tanked would be beyond ugly even if they didn’t replace her with a dude.

Kennedy’s public squabbles with the directors she hired are the kind of inside baseball gossip that a generation ago wouldn’t have been dissected in public. I wish Kennedy would put her money where her mouth is in terms of hiring more diverse directors and non-white leading ladies. But a skewed irony of what we’ve seen thus far is that each Star Wars movie released under her tenure has scratched a specific itch while in turn earning the ire of folks who argued that a given release was “not my Star Wars.” As long as the loudest protestors control the debate, that will never change.

The Force Awakens was a franchise reset that explicitly attempted to recapture the excitement of the original trilogy, to the point where it played like a loose remake of A New Hope. The Last Jedi was a deep-dive deconstruction and an attempt to take the mythology in new, of-the-moment directions. Rogue One was a timely war movie that told a straight-up genre story within the Star Wars sandbox. Solo was original trilogy fan bait. It was an old-school heist caper that played like an Indiana Jones movie and felt inspired by the movies that inspired Star Wars, as opposed to being inspired by Star Wars.

All four of these Walt Disney releases earned solid reviews and strong polling scores. Most general moviegoers either loved them or thought them “Fine, I guess” as an enjoyable Saturday matinee. Each of these films have their fans and their detractors among the vocal fan bases. All of them have areas where they excelled and areas where they faltered. But over the last three years, we have seen a pattern where a new Star Wars movie has quenched a specific thirst only to face backlash because those who didn’t want that specific flavor (or were just awful people) took to the Internet and shouted the loudest.

Yes, Star Wars IX could take a Jurassic Park III-level tumble and gross $850 million worldwide. Or it could rise like Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith and earn $1.7 billion worldwide. I’m guessing the answer is somewhere in between, with the goal arguably being enough ($1.151b) to push Disney’s Star Wars franchise over the $6b milestone. After that, it may indeed be a tough road for the Star Wars saga, as it’ll have to justify itself without explicit links to the Skywalker/Solo saga. I don’t envy Kennedy’s role in creating a Star Wars saga that isn’t connected to Star Wars, Empire or Jedi.

We know to expect fewer Star Wars movies, which is the right play to maintain their event movie status. We know to expect the TV series and the animated shows to fill in the gaps and continue to theoretically strengthen the brand in between the movies. But outside of the media circus and clickbait cycle that which positions a well-reviewed and well-received $1.33 billion-grossing sequel as a franchise-killing flop and argues that the producer of that movie should be fired, it’s a no-brainer to keep the woman who produced the Star Wars movies that have earned $4.8 billion worldwide. Keeping Kathleen Kennedy is both convenient and correct.


Fonte

 

[bushi_snake]

adoro quando me poupam o trabalho de certas coisas....

minha carteira agradece...

 

[Goris]

adoro quando me poupam o trabalho de certas coisas....

minha carteira agradece...

Seu... seu... seu troll russo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maioria das críticas à “Star Wars: Os Últimos Jedi” vieram de trolls russos
Novo estudo publicado pelo pesquisador Morten Bay aponta que as críticas negativas e agressivas ao filme não vieram de fãs da saga "Star Wars"
por Soraia Alves


Quase um ano depois do lançamento de “Star Wars: Os Últimos Jedi”, uma nova pesquisa sugere que grande parte da reação negativa ao filme veio de trolls russos e foi motivada por interesses políticos.

Enquanto os críticos elogiavam o filme, os comentários encontrados em fóruns e redes sociais pareciam bem divididos, e muitas críticas destilavam puro ódio ao filme, incluindo comentários racistas, machistas e homofóbicos em relação a diversos personagens.

No início de 2018, surgiu uma misteriosa conta no Twitter, cujo único objetivo era fazer com que o filme fosse refeito com outro diretor. Rian Johnson também sofreu assédio online, que por sinal acontece até hoje.

As descobertas do estudo “Weaponizing the haters: The Last Jedi and the strategic politicization of pop culture through social media manipulation”, publicado pelo pesquisador Morten Bay, mostram que grande parte das críticas negativas e agressivas ao filme não é genuína, e que algumas delas nem sequer são provenientes de fãs reais de Star Wars.

Bay escreveu que há “evidências de influência política deliberadas e organizadas disfarçadas de argumentos de fãs”. No geral, “50,9% daqueles que tuitavam negativamente eram politicamente motivados ou nem mesmo humanos”, escreveu o pesquisador, acrescentando que alguns desses usuários pareciam ser trolls russos.
Ainda segundo Bay, a era Trump influenciou o fandom, porque os temas e mensagens dentro de “The Last Jedi” são os mesmos que em outros filmes de Star Wars: “O discurso político divisivo do período de estudo e os meses que o antecederam provavelmente estimularam esses fãs com um tipo particular de mensagem política que está em conflito direto com os valores apresentados em ‘The Last Jedi'”, escreveu.

Na segunda-feira, o próprio Rian Johnson twittou um link para a pesquisa, dizendo que o estudo descrevia muito bem sua experiência de ataques online:



Fonte: Brain9, sim, eles mesmos!

Agora entendi, eu e todos aqui somos trolls russos. Adoro a verdade sendo mostrada na minha cara por essa turma que respeita a verdade acima de tudo, até mesmo de suas crenças ideológicas.

 

[bushi_snake]

Eu imagino você lá.... jovem russo.....

faz um put* trabalho no exército pra se tornar um motherfucking Spetnaz, tomando porrada pra carai, treinando pra carai, sambo todo dia, enfim chegando a um ponto aonde a maioria dos seres humanos nem chega perto fisicamente/psicologicamente falando (porra, eu sou 2x campeão brasileiro de kickboxing e pago um pau pros caras de tão tenso que eles são)....

pra chegar seu superior e te mandar uma put* missão importante...

"Você vai assistir Star Wars... e vai trollar geral"

Eu entendo uma PTSD ali fácil fácil nesse jovem....

 

[billpower]

Deixa o próximo SW flopar que essa renovação será rescindida num piscar de olhos.

 

[Goris]

Deixa o próximo SW flopar que essa renovação será rescindida num piscar de olhos.

Meu medo é os fãs reclamarem e irem ver assim mesmo.

Só ano que vem pra saber.

 

[Darkx1]

Viram que anunciou novo filme, né? O Mandaloriano com o Jon Favreau.

 

[Sgt. Kowalski]

Viram que anunciou novo filme, né? O Mandaloriano com o Jon Favreau.

Série.

Primeira imagem de estúdio:

 

[billpower]

Meu medo é os fãs reclamarem e irem ver assim mesmo.

Só ano que vem pra saber.

Eles estão se fiando nisso só que para bom entendedor meia "ação" basta. Só de renovarem com essa escrota já deveria ser recado suficiente para quem não aprovou a condução da série até aqui.

Se forem assistir merecem e, para mim pouco diferirá. Parto do princípio que SW morreu.

 

[Havokdan]

Em time que está ganhando, não se mexe.

 

[Pinguim 55]

Por falar em discrepância dos reviews da crítica e dos expectadores, o filme Venom está acontecendo algo do tipo, mas ao contrário.

No Rotten Tomatoes tem uma média de 31% segundo a crítica, mas segundo os expectadores, está em 89%.

Alguém por acaso assistiu Venom? Estou curioso com o filme agora por causa disto.

 

[Goris]

Por falar em discrepância dos reviews da crítica e dos expectadores, o filme Venom está acontecendo algo do tipo, mas ao contrário.

No Rotten Tomatoes tem uma média de 31% segundo a crítica, mas segundo os expectadores, está em 89%.

Alguém por acaso assistiu Venom? Estou curioso com o filme agora por causa disto.

Não é zoeira, estava com pique zero pra assistir, já fiquei curioso agora.
Ainda sem hype pra ir assistir, mas o filme acabou de entrar na janela de filmes que posso ir ver esse mês.

 

[-Riku-]

Essa notícia é antiga mas nem sabia

https://culturedvultures.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-surpasses-80-million-in-home-video-sales/

Pelo q diziam aqui achava q a Disney estava em apuros, aí vejo q o filme foi o mais vendido do ano em home vídeo
Lacrando e lucrando

 

[Goris]

Essa notícia é antiga mas nem sabia

https://culturedvultures.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-surpasses-80-million-in-home-video-sales/

Pelo q diziam aqui achava q a Disney estava em apuros, aí vejo q o filme foi o mais vendido do ano em home vídeo.

Lacrando e lucrando

Não exatamente, Riku. Acho que pegaram você com uma pegadinha do malandro.

Sabe quando um filme muito esperado sai pra venda? Ele sai com o preço lá no alto. Não compro discos há decadas, mas vamos supor que assim que lança o filme ele custa 50 reais. É o preço de lançamento e ele continua com preço alto por pelo menos um mês, porque quem quer muito, paga esse valor. Então, baixam pra 39,90. Ainda é um preço alto, mas mais gente pode comprar. E ele fica lá seus 3 meses por esse valor. Consegue acompanhar? Concorda? Depois desses 3 meses, baixam o preço pra 29,90 e deixam mais 3 meses. É mais ou menos assim que funciona o mercado. Finalmente depois desses 3 meses, baixam pra 19,90 e deixam outros tres meses nesse preço. Aí, o filme já lucrou tudo que tinha que lucrar, as pessoas já não querem tanto ele e as cópias que restam começam a ser vendidas a 9,90, começam a ser dadas junto com revistas, sendo vendidas em baciada nas Lojas Americanas, saem em promoção abaixo de 9,90...

Nessa conta minha, um filme que começa a ser vendido a 50 reais, chega ao final de 10 meses sendo vendido a 9,90. Mas há casos de filmes de sucesso que recebem uma segunda, terceira e quarta reimpressão e mesmo depois de 1 ano ainda estão com preço de 29,90.

Star Wars - O Despertar da Força, primeiro filme da trilogia Disney é um desses casos. O filme já tem mais de 2 anos. Já está sendo vendido a 9,90 mas se você tirar o preço médio do filme (que passou por toda essa roda aí de cima) é uns 25 dolares (nos EUA). Ou seja, ficou meses sendo vendido a 50, meses sendo vendido a 39,90, meses sendo vendido a 29,90... E mesmo sendo vendido hoje a preço baixo, o tempo que ele ficou vendendo a preço alto compensou o valor médio.

The Last Jedi começou a vender seis meses atrás (eram menos de 6 meses quando a notícia aí saiu) e o valor médio do filme era... 23 dolares. Na Amazon ele estava sendo vendido (na epoca) a 13 dolares.

Percebeu a pegadinha do malandro?

Seus amigos lacradores te enganaram.

O filme deveria estar com preço (em seis meses) de 29,90 (lembrando, é um exemplo) pela lógica de redução de custo, mas está com preço quase 9,90 já... Ou seja, ele está vendendo tão mal, que o preço já é menos da metade do que seria se ele fosse um filme de sucesso mediano.

"Ah, mas ele tá vendendo milhões de cópias", sim, verdade. Mas está vendendo porque está com preço baixo, gente que normalmente nem compraria o filme (e nem falo de fas) estão comprando porque tá muito barato e não deve ser tao ruim assim, na cabeça deles. Ou são fãs que ao menos mantém a coleção completa, mesmo não gostando.

Ou seja, o filme lacrou e não lucrou.

Apenas pegaram a notícia e deram a má notícia de forma invertida "O filme vendeu milhões de cópias" sendo que na verdade "Disney teve que baixar o lançamento para preço de filme antigo pras pessoas comprarem" seja a real notícia.